@exp said: @Francisco would it be possible to suggest to @DA_Mark to preserve and restore DB names during backup and restore? Since currently DB names are treated as relative names and uses account name as its prefix. Is there a way to rename DB names in DA?
I pointed him to these forums.
I think the main issue is that in the case of cPanel they have a map of username->database, that way you can have cases of someone having a completely different prefixed database to their actual username.
I think DirectAdmin likely splits things at the 1st underscore and makes sure it matches the username.
A map of databases would be useful but would likely require a fairly serious overhaul of DA.
@WSS said:
If it's a subdomain/alias, there will likely be more things to rectify- I can't say I have tried to do a cpanel subdomain to directadmin primary at any time without doing so manually.
You are correct DA restored the DB with prefix of current account name! Like domain2_wp123 since my login name in myw is domain2
In my previous host, login name was domain1 which was my original domain before it was changed to domain2. So correct db name is domain1_wp123
But since this is a restore, shouldnt DA just restore with the original names? Or is this because theyre relative names?
How do I change the db names? Should I just wait for @MikePT to reply to my ticket?
It is not something I see from the admin side of backup/restore but when users have migrated to me their username prefixes differed and I've had a few support requests regarding syncing their database names. So +1 on the interest, but not a deal breaker.
EDIT: A rename database function might be useful in MYSQL Manager (and an out of the box auto-login for phpmyadmin too). Any automated manipulation of the usename portion is a bad idea, IMO, and likely to throw up more issues. I agree with WSS with regards to manually renaming databses/adjusting config files to match.
The standard import routine should allow database names to be restored unaltered, IMHO. If that means raising the default name length restriction, then so be it.
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For occasions like that, there are also db migration plugins or even AIO Wp migration/updraft plus to avoid such issues Although editing the config is not much of a problem ofc.
@Mr_Tom said: True, but in the problem earlier the username was different IIRC?
If and only if, the automated restore is being done using a different username (is that possible?), then the prefix should be changed to match - assuming all control panels use the same convention (which they don't). If restricted to WHM/cPanel restores, then AFAIK, they all have a username prefix.
Of course, if you're restoring manually ie. no account auto-create, then really you should have the knowledge to make any required changes yourself. If not, get someone who knows what they are doing.
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Probably stupid question: But when I change DNS servers for a domain (hosted at a DA server), from the DNS hosted/controlled by DA to some 3rd party nameservers.
Then delegation is setup at the registrar, and the world see my changes without issues.
But does DA itself also always check DNS properly (as in asking the root servers), or does it somehow assume that "all my domain belong to my own DNS"? (I assume it's using the OS resolver and ignoring it's own DNS as long as no NS delegation is done to it's own servers. So I'm just double checking.)
@Amitz said:
Now it's me having a question:
All I wanted to to is change some global PHP settings...
So I did a /usr/local/bin/php --ini | grep 'Loaded Configuration File'
and learned that the php.ini location is in /usr/local/php72/lib/php.ini
I changed the values and restarted Apache.
Still the changes are not applied. What does Directadmin expect me to do? Their documentation is a mess when searching via Google.You never know whether it is outdated information, or nor. That sucks a bit...
@Amitz said:
Now it's me having a question:
All I wanted to to is change some global PHP settings...
So I did a /usr/local/bin/php --ini | grep 'Loaded Configuration File'
and learned that the php.ini location is in /usr/local/php72/lib/php.ini
I changed the values and restarted Apache.
Still the changes are not applied. What does Directadmin expect me to do? Their documentation is a mess when searching via Google.You never know whether it is outdated information, or nor. That sucks a bit...
Same problem
I think you changed php 7.2 ini settings but maybe using other version on your website?
I use this command to change settings of all versions.
@WSS said:
If it's a subdomain/alias, there will likely be more things to rectify- I can't say I have tried to do a cpanel subdomain to directadmin primary at any time without doing so manually.
You are correct DA restored the DB with prefix of current account name! Like domain2_wp123 since my login name in myw is domain2
In my previous host, login name was domain1 which was my original domain before it was changed to domain2. So correct db name is domain1_wp123
But since this is a restore, shouldnt DA just restore with the original names? Or is this because theyre relative names?
How do I change the db names? Should I just wait for @MikePT to reply to my ticket?
I can have a look at it
Now I added a new domain but it doesnt appear in the list of domains of DA but it shows under domains folder of File manager
The Lets encrypt renew still fails for 2 domains. Manually creating wildcard for these 2 domains also fail. DA is really buggy. I hope they focus on 'functionality' first before the 'eye candy'
@WSS said:
If it's a subdomain/alias, there will likely be more things to rectify- I can't say I have tried to do a cpanel subdomain to directadmin primary at any time without doing so manually.
You are correct DA restored the DB with prefix of current account name! Like domain2_wp123 since my login name in myw is domain2
In my previous host, login name was domain1 which was my original domain before it was changed to domain2. So correct db name is domain1_wp123
But since this is a restore, shouldnt DA just restore with the original names? Or is this because theyre relative names?
How do I change the db names? Should I just wait for @MikePT to reply to my ticket?
I can have a look at it
Now I added a new domain but it doesnt appear in the list of domains of DA but it shows under domains folder of File manager
The Lets encrypt renew still fails for 2 domains. Manually creating wildcard for these 2 domains also fail. DA is really buggy. I hope they focus on 'functionality' first before the 'eye candy'
The setup I have with cPanel, I am not sure if it is possible to replicate that with DA
I use separate domains for nameservers ( with cPanel DNSonly) & hostnames to where I login for managing my domains
ns1.nameserverdomain.com & ns2.nameserverserverdomain.com are hostnames for DNSonly setup on 2 vps from DO
And a separate subdamain.mydomain.com (this domain is different from what I am using for DNSonly) for hostname on the server where I actually host my websites which is with BuyVM
If it is possible to replicate such a setup on DA, I might switch
Already paying 4 times of what I was paying before the price hike of cPanel
Already have DA based hostings from a bunch of providers & I am happy with them but the above setup is for something more mission critical
@vpsgeek said:
The setup I have with cPanel, I am not sure if it is possible to replicate that with DA
I use separate domains for nameservers ( with cPanel DNSonly) & hostnames to where I login for managing my domains
ns1.nameserverdomain.com & ns2.nameserverserverdomain.com are hostnames for DNSonly setup on 2 vps from DO
And a separate subdamain.mydomain.com (this domain is different from what I am using for DNSonly) for hostname on the server where I actually host my websites which is with BuyVM
If it is possible to replicate such a setup on DA, I might switch
Already paying 4 times of what I was paying before the price hike of cPanel
Already have DA based hostings from a bunch of providers & I am happy with them but the above setup is for something more mission critical
Do you mean DNS cluster?
It's possible, yes. We run it.
It's also possible to get cPanel DNSonly to work with DA.
@vpsgeek said:
The setup I have with cPanel, I am not sure if it is possible to replicate that with DA
I use separate domains for nameservers ( with cPanel DNSonly) & hostnames to where I login for managing my domains
ns1.nameserverdomain.com & ns2.nameserverserverdomain.com are hostnames for DNSonly setup on 2 vps from DO
And a separate subdamain.mydomain.com (this domain is different from what I am using for DNSonly) for hostname on the server where I actually host my websites which is with BuyVM
If it is possible to replicate such a setup on DA, I might switch
Already paying 4 times of what I was paying before the price hike of cPanel
Already have DA based hostings from a bunch of providers & I am happy with them but the above setup is for something more mission critical
Do you mean DNS cluster?
It's possible, yes. We run it.
It's also possible to get cPanel DNSonly to work with DA.
Dear Mike yep that is exactly what I wanted to ask
@vpsgeek said:
The setup I have with cPanel, I am not sure if it is possible to replicate that with DA
I use separate domains for nameservers ( with cPanel DNSonly) & hostnames to where I login for managing my domains
ns1.nameserverdomain.com & ns2.nameserverserverdomain.com are hostnames for DNSonly setup on 2 vps from DO
And a separate subdamain.mydomain.com (this domain is different from what I am using for DNSonly) for hostname on the server where I actually host my websites which is with BuyVM
If it is possible to replicate such a setup on DA, I might switch
Already paying 4 times of what I was paying before the price hike of cPanel
Already have DA based hostings from a bunch of providers & I am happy with them but the above setup is for something more mission critical
Do you mean DNS cluster?
It's possible, yes. We run it.
It's also possible to get cPanel DNSonly to work with DA.
Dear Mike yep that is exactly what I wanted to ask
@vpsgeek said:
The setup I have with cPanel, I am not sure if it is possible to replicate that with DA
I use separate domains for nameservers ( with cPanel DNSonly) & hostnames to where I login for managing my domains
ns1.nameserverdomain.com & ns2.nameserverserverdomain.com are hostnames for DNSonly setup on 2 vps from DO
And a separate subdamain.mydomain.com (this domain is different from what I am using for DNSonly) for hostname on the server where I actually host my websites which is with BuyVM
If it is possible to replicate such a setup on DA, I might switch
Already paying 4 times of what I was paying before the price hike of cPanel
Already have DA based hostings from a bunch of providers & I am happy with them but the above setup is for something more mission critical
Do you mean DNS cluster?
It's possible, yes. We run it.
It's also possible to get cPanel DNSonly to work with DA.
Dear Mike yep that is exactly what I wanted to ask
Which of the options I mentioned?
cPanel DNSonly integration with DA?
OR, DNS Cluster in DA?
DNS Cluster in DA. I wish to keep my DNS remote & if I switch I would prefer my DNS to run on DA. A couple of $24 DA licences should be enough for it?
@vpsgeek said:
DNS Cluster in DA. I wish to keep my DNS remote & if I switch I would prefer my DNS to run on DA. A couple of $24 DA licences should be enough for it?
So DirectAdmin isn't like cPanel where a user can have their DNS cluster attached and their zones sync there. I've got a few resellers that run their own dnsonly boxes that are linked to their reseller.
If you're in full root control of your DA boxes then yep, you can just install DA on a box and then setup Multi-Server mode and tell it to only validate/sync DNS zones.
@vpsgeek said:
The setup I have with cPanel, I am not sure if it is possible to replicate that with DA
I use separate domains for nameservers ( with cPanel DNSonly) & hostnames to where I login for managing my domains
ns1.nameserverdomain.com & ns2.nameserverserverdomain.com are hostnames for DNSonly setup on 2 vps from DO
And a separate subdamain.mydomain.com (this domain is different from what I am using for DNSonly) for hostname on the server where I actually host my websites which is with BuyVM
If it is possible to replicate such a setup on DA, I might switch
Already paying 4 times of what I was paying before the price hike of cPanel
Already have DA based hostings from a bunch of providers & I am happy with them but the above setup is for something more mission critical
Do you mean DNS cluster?
It's possible, yes. We run it.
It's also possible to get cPanel DNSonly to work with DA.
Dear Mike yep that is exactly what I wanted to ask
Which of the options I mentioned?
cPanel DNSonly integration with DA?
OR, DNS Cluster in DA?
DNS Cluster in DA. I wish to keep my DNS remote & if I switch I would prefer my DNS to run on DA. A couple of $24 DA licences should be enough for it?
Yeah. Just enable multi-server, then set those as dns servers.
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You still need to change your wp_config.php to match, IF it's restored the DB correctly under your user, or rename the tables.
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I pointed him to these forums.
I think the main issue is that in the case of cPanel they have a map of username->database, that way you can have cases of someone having a completely different prefixed database to their actual username.
I think DirectAdmin likely splits things at the 1st underscore and makes sure it matches the username.
A map of databases would be useful but would likely require a fairly serious overhaul of DA.
Francisco
I can have a look at it
It is not something I see from the admin side of backup/restore but when users have migrated to me their username prefixes differed and I've had a few support requests regarding syncing their database names. So +1 on the interest, but not a deal breaker.
MichaelCee
EDIT: A rename database function might be useful in MYSQL Manager (and an out of the box auto-login for phpmyadmin too). Any automated manipulation of the usename portion is a bad idea, IMO, and likely to throw up more issues. I agree with WSS with regards to manually renaming databses/adjusting config files to match.
The standard import routine should allow database names to be restored unaltered, IMHO. If that means raising the default name length restriction, then so be it.
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This. Or even a hint that it's the database login you use not your DA login to access phpMyAdmin.
The issue surely with importing database names unchanged is someone else might have that table name in use.
That shouldn't be the case where existing databases have a username matched prefix. The whole point of doing so, in the first place.
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True, but in the problem earlier the username was different IIRC?
For occasions like that, there are also db migration plugins or even AIO Wp migration/updraft plus to avoid such issues
Although editing the config is not much of a problem ofc.
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If and only if, the automated restore is being done using a different username (is that possible?), then the prefix should be changed to match - assuming all control panels use the same convention (which they don't). If restricted to WHM/cPanel restores, then AFAIK, they all have a username prefix.
Of course, if you're restoring manually ie. no account auto-create, then really you should have the knowledge to make any required changes yourself. If not, get someone who knows what they are doing.
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Probably stupid question: But when I change DNS servers for a domain (hosted at a DA server), from the DNS hosted/controlled by DA to some 3rd party nameservers.
Then delegation is setup at the registrar, and the world see my changes without issues.
But does DA itself also always check DNS properly (as in asking the root servers), or does it somehow assume that "all my domain belong to my own DNS"? (I assume it's using the OS resolver and ignoring it's own DNS as long as no NS delegation is done to it's own servers. So I'm just double checking.)
Martynas is not over here but he posted about this over "there".
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How bloated is the new them?
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I never have any issues really.
Go check the demo.directadmin.com demo_[accesslevel]:demo
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Try connecting over public wifi or 3g network. Still bloated
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Same problem
Is there a nice guide for installing DA correctly and also do some customs while at it?
Simply doing
./setup autoworks pretty good and puts it into a "cPanel transferrable" state. MySQL 5.7, PHP 7.2 and the usual trimmings, etc.Francisco
I'll play messenger again and post their WIP documentation https://docs.directadmin.dev
MichaelCee
Does anybody have anything about DA that maybe confuses you a bit and a <1 min video doing the task would help?
I am going to catalog as much as possible here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5Gdb29UJxaWoFnwTSlM4wA
MichaelCee
I think you changed php 7.2 ini settings but maybe using other version on your website?
I use this command to change settings of all versions.
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Now I added a new domain but it doesnt appear in the list of domains of DA but it shows under domains folder of File manager
The Lets encrypt renew still fails for 2 domains. Manually creating wildcard for these 2 domains also fail. DA is really buggy. I hope they focus on 'functionality' first before the 'eye candy'
Please PM me the ticket ID.
The setup I have with cPanel, I am not sure if it is possible to replicate that with DA
I use separate domains for nameservers ( with cPanel DNSonly) & hostnames to where I login for managing my domains
ns1.nameserverdomain.com & ns2.nameserverserverdomain.com are hostnames for DNSonly setup on 2 vps from DO
And a separate subdamain.mydomain.com (this domain is different from what I am using for DNSonly) for hostname on the server where I actually host my websites which is with BuyVM
If it is possible to replicate such a setup on DA, I might switch
Already paying 4 times of what I was paying before the price hike of cPanel
Already have DA based hostings from a bunch of providers & I am happy with them but the above setup is for something more mission critical
Recommend: SmallWeb|BuyVM|Linode|RamNode
Do you mean DNS cluster?
It's possible, yes. We run it.
It's also possible to get cPanel DNSonly to work with DA.
Dear Mike yep that is exactly what I wanted to ask
Recommend: SmallWeb|BuyVM|Linode|RamNode
Which of the options I mentioned?
cPanel DNSonly integration with DA?
OR, DNS Cluster in DA?
DNS Cluster in DA. I wish to keep my DNS remote & if I switch I would prefer my DNS to run on DA. A couple of $24 DA licences should be enough for it?
Recommend: SmallWeb|BuyVM|Linode|RamNode
So DirectAdmin isn't like cPanel where a user can have their DNS cluster attached and their zones sync there. I've got a few resellers that run their own dnsonly boxes that are linked to their reseller.
If you're in full root control of your DA boxes then yep, you can just install DA on a box and then setup
Multi-Servermode and tell it to only validate/sync DNS zones.That's how we share our nameservers on our nodes.
Francisco
Yeah. Just enable multi-server, then set those as dns servers.