I just noticed that I have an invoice for two separate orders which expire on the same day merged. Is this something new?
I understand that from billing point of view (paypal fees for $6.94 /yr services) but see it a bit problematic because if FFME004 doesn't come back online by the service expiration time (in some week or so) I plan to cancel this one but as it seems it's stuck with my other AMS vps.
@Mumbly said:
I just noticed that I have an invoice for two separate orders which expire on the same day merged. Is this something new?
I understand that from billing point of view (paypal fees for $6.94 /yr services) but see it a bit problematic because if FFME004 doesn't come back online by the service expiration time (in some week or so) I plan to cancel this one but as it seems it's stuck with my other AMS vps.
This is normal. If the VMs expire on the same day you get one invoice. Canceling the VM that is down before the 30 day invoice window is what I normally do, then if it comes back up within the next 27 days, I remove the cancellation.
It's the first time that I experienced a merged invoice for renewal. I am wondering what happens if I cancel one vps.
I will think about what to do. Canceling both or simply paying for both. It's not a lot of money involved but it feels kinda stupid to pay for something thats down long-term.
@JoeMerit said:
Everyone watching last years virbot specials disappear off their accounts?
The 2022 Christmas/New Years VirBot specials were pretty darn good. I bought 10 of them, and I am only cancelling two. One because it is dead, and one other because with the moves I ended up with too many in a location. I did get rid of a few old 2018/2019 BF VMs earlier because the 2022 Christmas deals were better. Overall I still have 18 VMs with VirMach, which is four more than I had last year.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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@JoeMerit said:
Everyone watching last years virbot specials disappear off their accounts?
The 2022 Christmas/New Years VirBot specials were pretty darn good. I bought 10 of them, and I am only cancelling two. One because it is dead, and one other because with the moves I ended up with too many in a location. I did get rid of a few old 2018/2019 BF VMs earlier because the 2022 Christmas deals were better. Overall I still have 18 VMs with VirMach, which is four more than I had last year.
@FrankZ - want to transfer to me? instead of cancelling...
@FrankZ said:
The 2022 Christmas/New Years VirBot specials were pretty darn good. I bought 10 of them, and I am only cancelling two. One because it is dead, and one other because with the moves I ended up with too many in a location. I did get rid of a few old 2018/2019 BF VMs earlier because the 2022 Christmas deals were better. Overall I still have 18 VMs with VirMach, which is four more than I had last year.
@FrankZ - want to transfer to me? instead of cancelling...
I don't expect there is time left to do that for these particular ones, but I could let you have one in San Jose that expires Jan 2nd 2025. 1 core 3900X, 1.4 GB RAM, 20 GB NVMe, 2 TB transfer, renews at $6.94/yr. It has been a good one. I'd let you have it for the $6.94 + $3 transfer fee via PP F&F. Let me know if you are interested.
Just requested cancellation today, the system keep billing me eating up the funds i already put in, with server been down for longer then i can remember.
@FrankZ said: The 2022 Christmas/New Years VirBot specials were pretty darn good. I bought 10 of them, and I am only cancelling two. One because it is dead, and one other because with the moves I ended up with too many in a location. I did get rid of a few old 2018/2019 BF VMs earlier because the 2022 Christmas deals were better. Overall I still have 18 VMs with VirMach, which is four more than I had last year.
I had a couple hundred dollars worth --- now going down to a single VM because I don't want to risk being locked into dead servers with no support. It was good while it lasted!
@FrankZ said: The 2022 Christmas/New Years VirBot specials were pretty darn good. I bought 10 of them, and I am only cancelling two. One because it is dead, and one other because with the moves I ended up with too many in a location. I did get rid of a few old 2018/2019 BF VMs earlier because the 2022 Christmas deals were better. Overall I still have 18 VMs with VirMach, which is four more than I had last year.
I had a couple hundred dollars worth --- now going down to a single VM because I don't want to risk being locked into dead servers with no support. It was good while it lasted!
Obviously people should do what they think is best for their own circumstance. Given some of the uncertainty over the repair time of some nodes these last couple of months, it is understandable you might want to move on. Personally I am going to ride this wave all the way to the beach. After nine years of VirMach service I am so far ahead that going through a bit of rough water has been no problem for me. Most of my VMs have not had any issues, other than IP/location changes, which was mostly understandable given the DediPath deadpool.
Although I have no inside information to support this, in the back of my mind I can't help but think this is a shakeout of weak hands. A way to get rid of the people that cause most of the tickets, so the recouped inventory can be sold at higher prices to pay for the increased cost of doing business and valid support. I expect that VirMach has realized that trying to give Low Ender's no profit pricing under the condition of limited support does not work as people will still expect support no matter the price they have paid for the service. I'm thinking VirMach will make some adjustments and come back better. As always time will tell.
Here's to hoping everybody gets what they are looking for out of life in the New Year.
I am impressed with your faith considering how long it lasts (soon™ measured in years instead of, what would be more reasonable, in maybe weeks), but there's most likely a more sensible and mature way to make people go instead of keeping servers down until payment runs out, don't you think?
Although I don't care that much anymore, I hope that he's more mature than that.
@Mumbly said:
I am impressed with your faith considering how long it lasts (soon™ measured in years instead of, what would be more reasonable, in maybe weeks), but there's most likely a more sensible and mature way to make people go instead of keeping servers down until payment runs out, don't you think?
Although I don't care that much anymore, I hope that he's more mature than that.
I would agree that leaving nodes down for weeks or months is not a generally acceptable practice, no matter the reasoning. That is why I do understand people leaving. I probably stay because some outages are actually helpful for my use case, as I build fault tolerant redundant systems. No random outages, no way to test if the systems actually work or not. Also as I said before, this has not been as big a problem for me as it has been for others.
Secondly, for years I have been joking around about VirMach being run by a grant from https://soc.ucla.edu/ to prompt reactions in a social group. So this is not new thinking on my part. I probably would not call it "faith" as it is more like I find the reactions to various stimuli that are introduced "interesting". Probably also why I tried to help other clients out along the way all these years
@FrankZ said: Secondly, for years I have been joking around about VirMach being run by a grant from https://soc.ucla.edu/ to prompt reactions in a social group. So this is not new thinking on my part. I probably would not call it "faith" as it is more like I find the reactions to various stimuli that are introduced "interesting". Probably also why I tried to help other clients out along the way all these years
But you're not just an impartial observer. You're in the same bag as us and you judge things from your point of view. If researchers would sort us into groups you would most likely fall into a group jokingly called "believers" or something like that and got own "interesting" chapter in the final report.
For example there wasn't just help, there was also gaslighting, arguing against completely legit complaints, patronising and so on ... in the past. Some may say that there were moments when you were overprotective toward the host. Interesting reaction for researchers for sure
I consider myself a realist. That aside in your opinion do you think that my actions on both the OGF and LES over the years have been more detrimental to people than helpful ?
IMO it normally is pretty hard for one person to gaslight a group. It is normally much easier to do by a group to an individual.
@VirMach After months of being offline, even if you can't come up with a solution right now, you should extend the term for services that are currently unavailable instead of sending out a new invoice.
@tulipyun said: @VirMach After months of being offline, even if you can't come up with a solution right now, you should extend the term for services that are currently unavailable instead of sending out a new invoice.
you should cancel instead of paying that invoice and sue him for $3.
@tulipyun said: @VirMach After months of being offline, even if you can't come up with a solution right now, you should extend the term for services that are currently unavailable instead of sending out a new invoice.
you should cancel instead of paying that invoice and sue him for $3.
The point is what Virmach should have done, not accusations of what I should have done.
Obviously I can't go cross-country and sue him for a few dollars, but that doesn't mean he's right to do it
@tulipyun said: @VirMach After months of being offline, even if you can't come up with a solution right now, you should extend the term for services that are currently unavailable instead of sending out a new invoice.
you should cancel instead of paying that invoice and sue him for $3.
The point is what Virmach should have done, not accusations of what I should have done.
Obviously I can't go cross-country and sue him for a few dollars, but that doesn't mean he's right to do it
he has already done what he has done, its up to you to do what you should have done. obviously you can only control your own actions at this point.
NYCB004 is overloading and we're attempting to bring it under control. The filesystem and RAID controller appear to have no issues and this appears to be an issue at the host operating system level. We are attempting to avoid a reboot and this may take longer than usual due to being a storage node.
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@FrankZ said:
Actually transfers have been fast lately if both accounts are in good standing.
Yes, I can confirm this. About 3 weeks ago I did my first (and only so far) transfer, and it was all completed and transferred in less than 15 minutes.
DALZ004 and DALZ007 have been offline for almost four months. Why do you pretend you have no knowledge? If it can't be restored, why don't flash sale users be allowed to migrate to other regions and choose to sacrifice their time and money?
Since you have chosen to discriminate against flash sale users from the beginning, why did you start the flash sale? Do you want to deliberately harm customers? @VirMach@FrankZ
Even if you don't intend to abide by the spirit of the contract, don't you even have conscience? For customers who trust you, your reward is to undermine their rights and laugh at them? @VirMach@FrankZ
Although you have only made 16 comments here at LES all regarding DALZ004 and DALZ007, I would like to thank you for your restraint by spacing them out over time. Can I ask what is the specs and cost of the service that you have/had in Dallas ?
I've found that their trick is to never want to answer a question head on, they'll find something completely unrelated and pretend to answer it.
I don't see how going after specs and costs helps at all, but it leads the original thread in a pointless direction.
@tulipyun said:
I've found that their trick is to never want to answer a question head on, they'll find something completely unrelated and pretend to answer it.
I don't see how going after specs and costs helps at all, but it leads the original thread in a pointless direction.
What was all that about? Posted in the wrong thread?
@tulipyun said:
I've found that their trick is to never want to answer a question head on, they'll find something completely unrelated and pretend to answer it.
I don't see how going after specs and costs helps at all, but it leads the original thread in a pointless direction.
What was all that about? Posted in the wrong thread?
@tulipyun said:
I've found that their trick is to never want to answer a question head on, they'll find something completely unrelated and pretend to answer it.
I don't see how going after specs and costs helps at all, but it leads the original thread in a pointless direction.
I expect that he does not see why I am asking the question and thinks I am doing something nefarious.
@tulipyun said:
I've found that their trick is to never want to answer a question head on, they'll find something completely unrelated and pretend to answer it.
I don't see how going after specs and costs helps at all, but it leads the original thread in a pointless direction.
What was all that about? Posted in the wrong thread?
He thinks FrankZ is deflecting.
Aha! Seeing all the "they", I thought he accidentally posted in the wrong thread.
Knowing FrankZ, I suspect he wanted to offer to transfer to the guy one of his vps. Hence the question about specs.
@tulipyun you should know by now that not everyone is out to get you.
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I just noticed that I have an invoice for two separate orders which expire on the same day merged. Is this something new?
I understand that from billing point of view (paypal fees for $6.94 /yr services) but see it a bit problematic because if FFME004 doesn't come back online by the service expiration time (in some week or so) I plan to cancel this one but as it seems it's stuck with my other AMS vps.
This is normal. If the VMs expire on the same day you get one invoice. Canceling the VM that is down before the 30 day invoice window is what I normally do, then if it comes back up within the next 27 days, I remove the cancellation.
It's the first time that I experienced a merged invoice for renewal. I am wondering what happens if I cancel one vps.
I will think about what to do. Canceling both or simply paying for both. It's not a lot of money involved but it feels kinda stupid to pay for something thats down long-term.
Yeah, multiple services on one invoice is normal, had it for years. Kinda meh, but I guess this is how WHCMS is working.
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If you cancel one the invoice is automatically updated to remove it.
That's cool then.
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 bus gang and Merry Christmas to @VirMach - let the next year will be less eventful that this one.
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I will confirm that WHMCS will do this if 1 ore more serves expire on the same day.
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Everyone watching last years virbot specials disappear off their accounts?
The 2022 Christmas/New Years VirBot specials were pretty darn good. I bought 10 of them, and I am only cancelling two. One because it is dead, and one other because with the moves I ended up with too many in a location. I did get rid of a few old 2018/2019 BF VMs earlier because the 2022 Christmas deals were better. Overall I still have 18 VMs with VirMach, which is four more than I had last year.
Oooh, I'll be left with a measly 12.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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@FrankZ - want to transfer to me? instead of cancelling...
I don't expect there is time left to do that for these particular ones, but I could let you have one in San Jose that expires Jan 2nd 2025. 1 core 3900X, 1.4 GB RAM, 20 GB NVMe, 2 TB transfer, renews at $6.94/yr. It has been a good one. I'd let you have it for the $6.94 + $3 transfer fee via PP F&F. Let me know if you are interested.
@FrankZ - PM sent
Just requested cancellation today, the system keep billing me eating up the funds i already put in, with server been down for longer then i can remember.
Anyone on STOR.NYC-B004S.VMS? mine went down about two hours ago.
I had a couple hundred dollars worth --- now going down to a single VM because I don't want to risk being locked into dead servers with no support. It was good while it lasted!
Obviously people should do what they think is best for their own circumstance. Given some of the uncertainty over the repair time of some nodes these last couple of months, it is understandable you might want to move on. Personally I am going to ride this wave all the way to the beach. After nine years of VirMach service I am so far ahead that going through a bit of rough water has been no problem for me. Most of my VMs have not had any issues, other than IP/location changes, which was mostly understandable given the DediPath deadpool.
Although I have no inside information to support this, in the back of my mind I can't help but think this is a shakeout of weak hands. A way to get rid of the people that cause most of the tickets, so the recouped inventory can be sold at higher prices to pay for the increased cost of doing business and valid support. I expect that VirMach has realized that trying to give Low Ender's no profit pricing under the condition of limited support does not work as people will still expect support no matter the price they have paid for the service. I'm thinking VirMach will make some adjustments and come back better. As always time will tell.
Here's to hoping everybody gets what they are looking for out of life in the New Year.
I am impressed with your faith considering how long it lasts (soon™ measured in years instead of, what would be more reasonable, in maybe weeks), but there's most likely a more sensible and mature way to make people go instead of keeping servers down until payment runs out, don't you think?
Although I don't care that much anymore, I hope that he's more mature than that.
I would agree that leaving nodes down for weeks or months is not a generally acceptable practice, no matter the reasoning. That is why I do understand people leaving. I probably stay because some outages are actually helpful for my use case, as I build fault tolerant redundant systems. No random outages, no way to test if the systems actually work or not. Also as I said before, this has not been as big a problem for me as it has been for others.
Secondly, for years I have been joking around about VirMach being run by a grant from https://soc.ucla.edu/ to prompt reactions in a social group. So this is not new thinking on my part. I probably would not call it "faith" as it is more like I find the reactions to various stimuli that are introduced "interesting". Probably also why I tried to help other clients out along the way all these years
But you're not just an impartial observer. You're in the same bag as us and you judge things from your point of view. If researchers would sort us into groups you would most likely fall into a group jokingly called "believers" or something like that and got own "interesting" chapter in the final report.
For example there wasn't just help, there was also gaslighting, arguing against completely legit complaints, patronising and so on ... in the past. Some may say that there were moments when you were overprotective toward the host. Interesting reaction for researchers for sure
I consider myself a realist. That aside in your opinion do you think that my actions on both the OGF and LES over the years have been more detrimental to people than helpful ?
IMO it normally is pretty hard for one person to gaslight a group. It is normally much easier to do by a group to an individual.
@VirMach please come back and say something - this topic pivoted into some crazy social experiment and they are using a lot of difficult words.
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
@VirMach After months of being offline, even if you can't come up with a solution right now, you should extend the term for services that are currently unavailable instead of sending out a new invoice.
you should cancel instead of paying that invoice and sue him for $3.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
The point is what Virmach should have done, not accusations of what I should have done.
Obviously I can't go cross-country and sue him for a few dollars, but that doesn't mean he's right to do it
he has already done what he has done, its up to you to do what you should have done. obviously you can only control your own actions at this point.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
@VirMach is on vacation, We should wait patiently.
I'm planning to cancel my Dallas-2GB $6.94/year since it is an idler.
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I predict that you will be getting inbound DM requests to transfer it instead of cancelling it.
Just cancel it. Don't transfer the service, VirMach has not processed service transfer requests in recent days.
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I expect that has to do more with the holidays than anything nefarious.
If you're about to cancel it, I'd love to take it.
I'll cover the yearly fee plus the transfer cost. Let me know if you're down to pass it.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?Good thinking
. Maybe the reason VirMach has not been around is due to the lack of bus postings.
NYCB004 is overloading and we're attempting to bring it under control. The filesystem and RAID controller appear to have no issues and this appears to be an issue at the host operating system level. We are attempting to avoid a reboot and this may take longer than usual due to being a storage node.
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
Actually transfers have been fast lately if both accounts are in good standing.
Yes, I can confirm this. About 3 weeks ago I did my first (and only so far) transfer, and it was all completed and transferred in less than 15 minutes.
Virmach is falling down, finally.
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DALZ004 and DALZ007 have been offline for almost four months. Why do you pretend you have no knowledge? If it can't be restored, why don't flash sale users be allowed to migrate to other regions and choose to sacrifice their time and money?
Since you have chosen to discriminate against flash sale users from the beginning, why did you start the flash sale? Do you want to deliberately harm customers? @VirMach @FrankZ
Even if you don't intend to abide by the spirit of the contract, don't you even have conscience? For customers who trust you, your reward is to undermine their rights and laugh at them? @VirMach @FrankZ
Although you have only made 16 comments here at LES all regarding DALZ004 and DALZ007, I would like to thank you for your restraint by spacing them out over time. Can I ask what is the specs and cost of the service that you have/had in Dallas ?
I've found that their trick is to never want to answer a question head on, they'll find something completely unrelated and pretend to answer it.
I don't see how going after specs and costs helps at all, but it leads the original thread in a pointless direction.
What was all that about? Posted in the wrong thread?
He thinks FrankZ is deflecting.
I expect that he does not see why I am asking the question and thinks I am doing something nefarious.
Aha! Seeing all the "they", I thought he accidentally posted in the wrong thread.
Knowing FrankZ, I suspect he wanted to offer to transfer to the guy one of his vps. Hence the question about specs.
@tulipyun you should know by now that not everyone is out to get you.