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  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @VirMach said: Hivelocity - I recently discovered this is how they price IPv6:

    With those IPv6 prices I expect you will not be getting many IPv6 from Hivelocity ?
    Will you be assigning /112 to VMs ?
    Or will you be getting and announcing your own IPv6 allotment ?
    Or will you be tunneling a free IPv6 /48 into Hivelocity Nodes ?
    Or will there be no IPv6 at Hivelocity locations ?
    Or do you have another plan ?

  • edited October 2022

    @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said: Hivelocity - I recently discovered this is how they price IPv6:

    With those IPv6 prices I expect you will not be getting many IPv6 from Hivelocity ?
    Will you be assigning /112 to VMs ?
    Or will you be getting and announcing your own IPv6 allotment ?
    Or will you be tunneling a free IPv6 /48 into Hivelocity Nodes ?
    Or will there be no IPv6 at Hivelocity locations ?
    Or do you have another plan ?

    Current plan is to do what @yoursunny suggested (or maybe just encouraged and it was someone else's idea?) a while back with Psychz. Something involving driving a car into a building. For legal reasons, that's a joke, and what we'll probably instead do is figure out when the hell we can get our equipment out and then realistically pay them $7.50 per month for 3 x /64's and assign everyone a single IPv6 and then optionally charge $0.60 per month Hivelocity IPv6 depletion fee for a /68.

    Maybe we can convince them to bump down the price of a /48 by $163,830 per month if they're generous or sane, then whatever, we can just pay them like a hundred bucks a year for nothing just to avoid having to get a /36 from ARIN for like $250 a year since that's the minimum amount they charge to manage one account.

    But yeah once I stop losing it over this it just means we'll have to hand $250/yr to ARIN, whatever.

  • @VirMach said:
    I recently discovered this is how they price IPv6:

    Wow. Do they sell bottles of air with that?

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited October 2022

    @VirMach said: But yeah once I stop losing it over this it just means we'll have to hand $250/yr to ARIN, whatever.

    Get /36 IPv6 from ARIN for $250 /yr.
    Sell each /64 IPv6 for $1 /yr undercutting Hivelocity.
    256 Million a year profit !!

    Seriously, Hivelocity can't be getting many takers at those IPv6 prices.
    I would not see any issue with issuing single IPv6, that would still be a big step up from CC.
    I even think that @yoursunny will understand.


    The following conversation takes place between a venture capital accountant and the head network tech guy at Hivelocity ...

    Account: We charge $2.50 a month for one IPv4 right ?

    Tech: Yep, that is correct.

    Account: Then why do we give IPv6 away for free?

    Tech: IPv4 is scarce, and IPv6 is plentiful.

    Accountant: If we stop giving them away for free people would stop thinking they were so plentiful. Start charging $2.50 per IPv6 just like we do for IPv4.

    Tech: We can't do that because the minimum routing on IPv6 is a /64 which is 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 IPv6.

    Accountant: Holy crap, we have to give a minimum of 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Ipv6 per item charged!!

    Tech: Yep.

    Accountant: Ok charge $2.50 a month per 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Ipv6. That is a hell of a deal, no one can complain about that.

    Tech: But we give them away for free now.

    Accountant: We need some ROI so you ether start charging $2.50/month for /64 IPv6 or I am getting me a network guy who will.

    Tech: Got it. $2.50/month for /64 IPv6. I'll let all the customers know.

  • @VirMach said: I recently discovered this is how they price IPv6:

    WTF.

    Do they charge these ridiculous amounts for leasing IPv6 from them or for announcing them? So would BYOIP be an option?

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  • JabJab TOP Member 2027

    I really hope this pricing is just for display so people won't order /48 when they need /64 and after contacting them it goes down to some sane levels...

    I am prolly an idiot.

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  • I find /112 or less annoying.
    /96 is good enough for me.

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  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited October 2022

    Just a FYI @VirMach - My VM on MIAZ012 has stopped responding as of 14:48 EDT

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @FrankZ said: Just a FYI @VirMach - My VM on MIAZ012 has stopped responding as of 14:48 EDT

    and it is back up.

  • @FrankZ said: Just a FYI..

    Hey! Stop sidetracking him from doing Transfers and freebies. :p :bleep_bloop:

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  • edited October 2022

    @FrankZ said:
    Just a FYI @VirMach - My VM on MIAZ012 has stopped responding as of 14:48 EDT

    Oct 17 11:48:03 MIAZ012 systemd-logind[1579]: Power key pressed.
    Oct 17 11:48:03 MIAZ012 systemd-logind[1579]: Powering Off...

    Looks like we made the mistake of making a DC hands request to check on RU13 and in the process they pressed power key on RU12 (MIAZ012.) It came back up but didn't come back cleanly so it overloaded. (Since we have some VMs that are still incompatible, the thing from a long time ago where it tries to boot it up and hogs all the CPU happened.)

    And of course they pretended like it didn't happen.

    (And so did our monitoring system since it came back up essentially immediately.)

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited October 2022

    @VirMach said:

    @FrankZ said:
    Just a FYI @VirMach - My VM on MIAZ012 has stopped responding as of 14:48 EDT

    Oct 17 11:48:03 MIAZ012 systemd-logind[1579]: Power key pressed.
    Oct 17 11:48:03 MIAZ012 systemd-logind[1579]: Powering Off...

    Looks like we made the mistake of making a DC hands request to check on RU13 and in the process they pressed power key on RU12 (MIAZ012.) It came back up but didn't come back cleanly so it overloaded. (Since we have some VMs that are still incompatible, the thing from a long time ago where it tries to boot it up and hogs all the CPU happened.)

    And of course they pretended like it didn't happen.

    Good to know that my monitoring looks pretty good. (that is if you are logging PDT above)
    Thank you for resolving the issue.


    @AlwaysSkint said: Hey! Stop sidetracking him from doing Transfers and freebies. :p :bleep_bloop:

    I was not distracting him as I made no ticket. :wink: You should know that I would do nothing to stand in the way of transfers and freebies.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said:

    @FrankZ said:
    Just a FYI @VirMach - My VM on MIAZ012 has stopped responding as of 14:48 EDT

    Oct 17 11:48:03 MIAZ012 systemd-logind[1579]: Power key pressed.
    Oct 17 11:48:03 MIAZ012 systemd-logind[1579]: Powering Off...

    Looks like we made the mistake of making a DC hands request to check on RU13 and in the process they pressed power key on RU12 (MIAZ012.) It came back up but didn't come back cleanly so it overloaded. (Since we have some VMs that are still incompatible, the thing from a long time ago where it tries to boot it up and hogs all the CPU happened.)

    And of course they pretended like it didn't happen.

    Good to know that my monitoring looks pretty good. (that is if you are logging PDT above)
    Thank you for resolving the issue.

    Once we set up the monitoring on a VM within the node it should catch things like this better since the VM would potentially run into issues and get marked as potentially offline whereas the host node won't since it has enough juice to respond to pings.

  • @VirMach said: Once we set up the monitoring on a VM within the node..

    A cunning plan.

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  • @VirMach said: (Since we have some VMs that are still incompatible, the thing from a long time ago where it tries to boot it up and hogs all the CPU happened.)

    I don't even think this was it. Looks like two very old services on Windows just decided to do weird Windows things immediately after reboot and that was enough to screw things up while everything else was also trying to happen at the same time.

    Windows be like alright someone rebooted me time to immediately read 140MB/s and write 40MB/s at 8KB for like an hour.

  • Ban Windoze: sorted. :|

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  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @VirMach said: Once we set up the monitoring on a VM within the node it should catch things like this better since the VM would potentially run into issues and get marked as potentially offline whereas the host node won't since it has enough juice to respond to pings.

    I would expect that the VM with the monitoring should always be last to be restarted.

  • I must be one of the "bad apples": test servers got terminated early. :'(
    TBH, I've been struggling to find time/energy to fully load them.

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    @AlwaysSkint said:
    I must be one of the "bad apples": test servers got terminated early. :'(
    TBH, I've been struggling to find time/energy to fully load them.

    me too me too

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  • JabJab TOP Member 2027
    edited October 2022

    Nothing early, 2 weeks has passed :D

    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/100340/#Comment_100340

    3rd of October + 14 days = 17th of October (totally ignoring timezones, still works)

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  • JabJab TOP Member 2027


    Just order a new one ;')

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  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @Jab said:
    Nothing early, 2 weeks passed :D

    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/100340/#Comment_100340

    3rd of October + 14 days = 17th of October (totally ignoring timezones, still works)

    I based it on Client Area, WHMCS "Next Due Date 11/03/2022" ;)
    Guys, it was good clickbait. :D

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  • @Jab said:

    Just order a new one ;')

    I get the "You must have an active product/service to use this code", although I have active services haha :#

  • @mayiprint said: » 显示以前的报价

    @VirMach said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said: Hivelocity - I recently discovered this is how they price IPv6:

    With those IPv6 prices I expect you will not be getting many IPv6 from Hivelocity ?
    Will you be assigning /112 to VMs ?
    Or will you be getting and announcing your own IPv6 allotment ?
    Or will you be tunneling a free IPv6 /48 into Hivelocity Nodes ?
    Or will there be no IPv6 at Hivelocity locations ?
    Or do you have another plan ?

    Current plan is to do what @yoursunny suggested (or maybe just encouraged and it was someone else's idea?) a while back with Psychz. Something involving driving a car into a building. For legal reasons, that's a joke, and what we'll probably instead do is figure out when the hell we can get our equipment out and then realistically pay them $7.50 per month for 3 x /64's and assign everyone a single IPv6 and then optionally charge $0.60 per month Hivelocity IPv6 depletion fee for a /68.

    Maybe we can convince them to bump down the price of a /48 by $163,830 per month if they're generous or sane, then whatever, we can just pay them like a hundred bucks a year for nothing just to avoid having to get a /36 from ARIN for like $250 a year since that's the minimum amount they charge to manage one account.

    But yeah once I stop losing it over this it just means we'll have to hand $250/yr to ARIN, whatever.

    I'm curious why you don't request IP from ARIN. but like to rent IP?

  • @sunaihui said:
    I'm curious why you don't request IP from ARIN. but like to rent IP?

    IPv4 exhaustion makes that impossible.

  • @fluttershy said:

    @sunaihui said:
    I'm curious why you don't request IP from ARIN. but like to rent IP?

    IPv4 exhaustion makes that impossible.

    I assumed he was talking about v6.

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027
    edited October 2022

    Just remind yourself what was last DC that VirMach used and then ask yourself why would they bother going IPv6 :D
    Now seems like most DCs have sane pricing for IPv6 (mostly free?) and only one is going nuts - there was no need to apply to RIPE earlier.

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  • @Jab said:

    @DanSummer said: not seeing ubuntu 22 anywhere. did they remove it?

    That is only in SolusVM/panel [aka not in WHMCS/billing].

    If you don't have Ubuntu 22 there then maybe node did not synced or something and providing node name will be helpful ;-)

    Clicked some servers - most seems to have new images except NYC - for sure RYZE.NYC-B014.VMS and NYCB035.
    Seems like @VirMach hates NYCB :P

    Thanks! I thought as much but I still can't see it. Here's what i have:

  • @Jab said:

    @DanSummer said: not seeing ubuntu 22 anywhere. did they remove it?

    That is only in SolusVM/panel [aka not in WHMCS/billing].

    If you don't have Ubuntu 22 there then maybe node did not synced or something and providing node name will be helpful ;-)

    RYZE.PHX-Z003.VIRM.AC has no ISO listed in SolusVM.
    There's "Select" text but no dropdown box.

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  • edited October 2022

    @sunaihui said: I'm curious why you don't request IP from ARIN. but like to rent IP?

    We probably have to in this case, but the reason we didn't do it is it's a long/annoying process and they charge for IPv6 announcements plus there's a minimum fee with ARIN to where it doesn't really make sense. Although it would definitely be cool to at least have IPv6 remain the same forever and we were going to look into doing that in the long term anyway.

    That way we could also standardize IPv6 quantities per location. I'll just see if we can work that into the plan. We'll still keep any existing V6 as we assign them but maybe lock them off for future auto assignments to use our own.

    Short answer: we're being cheap and lazy for no reason. Although I will say if ARIN pushes for our client list on a spreadsheet for V6 the way they did with V4, we're 100% not doing that. We didn't do it for 65,536 IPv4 for virtually free and we sure as hell aren't doing it now for $2 worth of IPv6. I'm just morally opposed to that policy.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @VirMach said: I believe all the Ryzen templates are on passthrough now as of like yesterday actually.

    I've been running some re-installs on AMS Test Server AMSD030X/RYZE.AMS-D001.VMS ..
    Has WHMCS/SolusVM been messing you about again? Alama 8.3/Debian 10/Ubuntu 20.04(yuk!) all give Epyc Milan. :|
    (No selectable ISO in SolusVM.)
    Just saying.
    Network has epic speeds (geddit?). :)

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  • edited October 2022

    The no ISO might just be because of the new plan I made for it and forgot to include the ISO group but I actually don't remember if it's using its own or NVMe1G. Could just mean NVMe1G doesn't have it either and no one's noticed.

    Milan thing, I have a guess but not really sure. Possibly related to the version of libvirt/qemu we have on it. I assume it was added in when Milan came out at some point and they just mis-identify it? If that could be a thing? I just personally can't wait until people start throwing out conspiracy theories about how we're giving Milan instead of Ryzen to screw customers over or something like that.

    Does it actually result in lower Geekbench score/affect the clockrate?

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @VirMach said: and forgot to include the ISO group

    Just can't get the staff, these days, huh?

    @VirMach said: conspiracy theories

    LOL

    @VirMach said: Does it actually result in lower Geekbench score/affect the clockrate?

    Highly unlikely. ;)

    In other news: to add to my year of misery, I broke another tooth yesterday and, after pulling out the cracked bit today, the dentist says its' remnants gotta get extracted. Can't be done until I get off the blood thinners for a while. Jeez!

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  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited October 2022

    @VirMach said: Does it actually result in lower Geekbench score/affect the clockrate?

    From what I have seen in the past the clock rate is unaffected, but the Geekbench score is slightly lower. This is not a new thing and I have seen it happen before on the old E5's where it would show the CPU as a E3 with a clock speed of 2200 mhz. On the old servers installing a debian 6 template would almost always fix it.
    If you wanted to confirm that it is a libvirt/qemu version issue maybe you could use virsh edit to manually change the cpu mode in the VM config file to <cpu mode='host-passthrough'/> and see if it fixes the issue. If it did then you would know it was an issue with SolusVM and not the libvirt/qemu version.


    @AlwaysSkint said: In other news: to add to my year of misery, I broke another tooth yesterday and, after pulling out the cracked bit today, the dentist says its' remnants gotta get extracted. Can't be done until I get off the blood thinners for a while. Jeez!

    I used to have these kinds of problems, but do to a "situation" I was involved in some years ago I found my self without any teeth. Afterward I had titanium implants and cubic zirconia crowns installed as replacements. Best thing I ever did as these things are indestructible. I highly recommend them.

  • @FrankZ said:
    I had titanium implants and cubic zirconia crowns installed as replacements. Best thing I ever did as these things are
    indestructible. I highly recommend them.

    :)

  • @VirMach said:
    Milan thing, I have a guess but not really sure. Possibly related to the version of libvirt/qemu we have on it. I assume it was added in when Milan came out at some point and they just mis-identify it? If that could be a thing? I just personally can't wait until people start throwing out conspiracy theories about how we're giving Milan instead of Ryzen to screw customers over or something like that.

    Does it actually result in lower Geekbench score/affect the clockrate?

    Doesn't seem to, single threaded GB5 performance is within 5-10% of one with a 5900x, close enough I'd call that a margin of error considering various other people on the node. Clock speed matches the known 5900x one as well, so I'm going to assume that's a 5900x in there. I was mostly just curious which cpu the node had since I keep track of all of that kinda stuff in a spreadsheet of my services, but I got my answer haha. I think the bigger concern for people is you can't get VM-x/AMD-V enabled with any of the templates on this node either, though it's not something I really need.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365
    edited October 2022

    @FrankZ said:
    cubic zirconia

    could this be you , far into the future?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @FrankZ said: titanium implants

    Yup, missus has one. Don't think I'm worth the couple of grand needed though and mine are near the back. Have never been that fond of soup. Slurp. :|

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  • @Virmach, FFME004 just went off, doing anything?

  • @tenpera said:
    @Virmach, FFME004 just went off, doing anything?

    Yup, also FFME004 - this is different though.

    Main IP pings: false
    Node Online: true
    Service online: offline
    Operating System: linux-debian-6.0.6-x86-min-gen2-v1
    Service Status:Active
    
  • JabJab TOP Member 2027
    edited October 2022


    I mean it's dead :P

    Noticed at: 2022-10-19 02:41:37 (UTC+01:00)
    Encountered errors:
    Amsterdam: Timeout (5 sec)
    London: Timeout (5 sec)
    Frankfurt: Timeout (5 sec)
    Warsaw: Timeout (5 sec)

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  • edited October 2022

    @Jab said:

    I mean it's dead :P

    Noticed at: 2022-10-19 02:41:37 (UTC+01:00)
    Encountered errors:
    Amsterdam: Timeout (5 sec)
    London: Timeout (5 sec)
    Frankfurt: Timeout (5 sec)
    Warsaw: Timeout (5 sec)

    Yeah it's not looking very good for FFME004. Two DIMMs aren't showing up, but are causing a ton of problems. I can't get logs to work so I can't really do much in terms of seeing what happens. And to top it off, an NVMe SSD also simultaneously failed and isn't coming back.

    If I had to guess based on what I'm seeing so far it might actually just be the board and the DIMMs and NVMe are fine.

  • Hi @VirMach , i want to migrate my vps from NYC to LA, But I don't find the migrate button, what should I do?

  • @gogogo said:
    Hi @VirMach , i want to migrate my vps from NYC to LA, But I don't find the migrate button, what should I do?

    Best case scenario it means we don't wish to sell any additional services to you such as migrations, most likely due to not following instructions in the past, creating too many unnecessary tickets, etc. If your service was originally in another region we'll add a button in the future to where you can request to move back to that region.

    Other possible worse reasons:

    • Multiple accounts
    • Chargebacks, severe abuse, or illegal activity on your account
    • Being involved with force migration to Tokyo, account selling/trading, or BF special sniping

    You can give me an invoice ID if you want me to check the specific reason.

  • @VirMach --- HI :)

    guess what i wanna ask about?

  • @ehab said:
    @VirMach --- HI :)

    guess what i wanna ask about?

    Uhhh... transfer ticket or free SSD2G?

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027
    edited October 2022

    We were able to bring FFME004 back online, but it only has half the physical memory functioning.

    This means that there is not enough RAM for all virtual servers at this time. To minimize downtime while we schedule hardware maintenance, we will immediately be migrating approximately half of all virtual servers to another nearby server. We will begin by moving the service with the highest memory usage to minimize the quantity of services migrated, so there's a higher likelihood of you being affected if you have a larger memory service.If your service is migrated, it will return online with a new IP address. You may view the new IP address on your service details page, and may have to use the "reconfigure network" button or manually configure the new IP address within the operating system, but in most cases this will be completed automatically.

    While this migration is progressing, your virtual server may be temporarily shut down and virtual server controls will not be available. Please keep in mind if you are not migrated, there will be an upcoming maintenance window which we will notify you of in a separate email, when it's arranged with the datacenter. If the situation worsens, we may elect to do immediate emergency maintenance instead.

    We apologize for the inconvenience. This round of maintenance/migration should be completed over the next 8 hours. We will post any additional updates on the network status page.

    Will I be a lottery winner in this migration too? Let's see, I have 4GB server there :D

    Thanks for fixing 04 with half of RAM (and SSD was boot?). MySQL replication managed to catch up with 8 hours downtime, I am impressed.

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  • edited October 2022

    @VirMach said:

    @ehab said:
    @VirMach --- HI :)

    guess what i wanna ask about?

    free SD2G?

    correct .... i will ask again next month .

    i know your busy just checking its still pending from your side

    have a nice week ahead.

    and don't forget you have a life also.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    LMFTFY

    @ehab said: i know your that you're busy..

    :p

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  • @AlwaysSkint said:
    LMFTFY

    @ehab said: i know your that you're busy..

    :p

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