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  • @AlwaysSkint said: Need more options in NW and central USA, IMHO.

    @JBB said: OKC sounded great, but I gather those plans are on hold?

    Oregon, Utah, and Colorado were all being considered. However, the location we'll be launching is Oklahoma City.

    OKC Launch

    We're going to be doing this location a little bit differently. I wanted to confirm with you guys that this finally is moving forward. I was going to wait until we actually got it done, but it's probably a good idea to gather some feedback at an earlier stage so we can make any requested changes more easily.

    This will likely be initially done as an unofficial launch, as we figure things out. So maybe watch out for an interesting sale. We're also doing our own network for the first time and there will be some type of disclaimer about that.

    Network - As currently planned

    Network will be done with an IPv6 focus, where possible + IPv4 NAT. We may provide dedicated IPv4 at either a high setup cost, or for certain line of services (generally at about +$5/YR extra as per usual but no price lock.)

    • Lumen on 10Gbps
    • Cogent on 1Gbps (for now)
    • OKC-iX (Hurricane Electric, Cloudflare)

    Software & Branding - As currently planned.

    So as I mentioned, we're going to be doing this location differently and that also includes likely using VirtFusion or some other system that does better with IPv6. These services may end up under their own branding, other than some exceptions. We may also finally want to do proper "cloud" using Fleio/OpenStack.

    It will also be the first location where we "officially" try to do IPv6 for the VirMach brand, where we'll have a portion of the servers dedicated to this brand and do it the same way (with SolusVM.)

    Hardware - As currently planned

    • Ryzen - same/similar leftover Ryzen servers.
    • Epyc - any existing Epyc that we never deployed, plus a few new.
    • Storage - some limited storage, and central backups.
    • Rented dedicated servers - see below

    We'll be building out dedicated servers to rent to customers directly. The focus will be mainly on Ryzen dedicated servers as planned several years ago. We'll honor these at agreed upon previous pricing for any dedicated server customers that purchased E3 to upgrade to Ryzen (someone remind me on the specific promises so we can try to get this done.) Likely Ryzen 2600 to 3700X, but potentially up to 3800X depending on how the budget is split. We may try to keep the MSRP the same on all variations, kind of like a hybrid grab bag, so they will likely not be "stacked out" but instead balanced, lopsided in some way (more RAM, more CPU, or more disk.) Just got 40 motherboards delivered.

    We will also try to do some interesting things with anything left over. We still technically have hundreds of E3's, some E5's, as well as older GPUs.

    Colocation Product - As currently planned

    I wanted to give a little more information and general planned pricing for this, for anyone interested.

    $69/MO - Per 1U/1A 208V/100Mbps (or 50TB @ 1Gbps)

    Included per 1U:

    • 1 x PDU Port
    • 2 x switch ports
    • 1x /56 IPv6

    Optional additions:

    • +$25/MO - Each additional 100Mbps 95th
    • +$175/MO - Upgrade to 1Gbps 95th
    • +$10/MO - 1 PDU Port
    • +$8/MO - /29 IPv4 (Subleased)
    • $120 One-time - /30 IPv4 (Static)

    Timeline - As currently planned

    We'll likely have the first cabinet ready first or second week of April, with Cogent coming in Mid-April and Lumen by the end of the month. I'm currently trying to decide on routers and have those ordered in as well.

    I'll try to push to have at least a few servers set up at this location immediately, so anyone who wants to have their service migrated can do so, if anyone is interested in providing early feedback on the network.

  • announcing a major product launch on page 361 of a complaints thread... B)

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited March 2025

    All very interesting.
    As always, I'm game to be a Guinea Pig. I have a surplus of VPS in NYC, so easy to find a migration candidate, though IPv4 is my modus operandi.
    Available for immediate migration: " AbandonedJaunty-VM" id=721293 (chosen due to single IPv4: a multi-IP is also available should you wish to challenge a SolusVM to Virtfusion migration.)

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited March 2025

    I'm in for OKC as well. Should be interesting.
    I look forward to the launch 🚀 🚀

  • As with @AlwaysSkint , I'm always game to test.

  • sh97sh97 Top MJJ

    In for the testing. Lumen is generally prem.
    Good luck, fingers crossed!

  • Hello, @VirMach .

    Could you please reply my ticket #238520? It has almost been 6 weeks.
    If you are busy at your current work, maybe at least tell me in this thread when my ticket will be reviewed so I don't have to check it every day??

  • @VirMach said:
    Oregon, Utah, and Colorado were all being considered. However, the location we'll be launching is Oklahoma City.

    I like it!

    Network will be done with an IPv6 focus, where possible + IPv4 NAT. We may provide dedicated IPv4 at either a high setup cost, or for certain line of services (generally at about +$5/YR extra as per usual but no price lock.)

    Ouch. I like IPv6, but losing IPv4 isn't workable for me yet. I find IPv4 NAT icky.

    I'll try to push to have at least a few servers set up at this location immediately, so anyone who wants to have their service migrated can do so, if anyone is interested in providing early feedback on the network.

    I'd be fine with migrating early from Chicago to OKC to help test things out, but only with dedicated IPv4.

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  • I am in for OKC @VirMach

  • I've got plenty of services to migrate for testing :)

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator
    edited March 2025

    Is 1200GB NVMe server finally here?

    @VirMach said: We still technically have hundreds of E3's, some E5's

    Where are the deals?

  • i'd be happy to migrate anything left in CHI to OKC to beta

  • @VirMach said:
    Network will be done with an IPv6 focus

    Is it routed ?

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  • A little more clarification on how it would work for the "VirMach" portion of OKC.

    It'd be exactly the same. We'd used leased IPv4, likely with however frequent renumberings that occur and any limitations. Same control panel, plans, and server specifications. This would just receive "official" IPv6 support as our first location that does for VirMach, and it is planned to be with IPv4 NAT for that portion, with static IPv4 (our own, it could technically still be renumbered at some point but the process more within our control.) This means the IPv6 portion still relies on our in-house system which has not yet been fully coded out.

    In regards to IPv6, this still means if you want day one guaranteed support for it and it being treated as the primary connectivity, it'd be under a different sub-brand (it could potentially be done loosely where it's still technically VirMach.)

    @AlwaysSkint said: As always, I'm game to be a Guinea Pig. I have a surplus of VPS in NYC, so easy to find a migration candidate, though IPv4 is my modus operandi.

    @FrankZ said:
    I'm in for OKC as well. Should be interesting.
    I look forward to the launch 🚀 🚀

    @skorous said:
    As with @AlwaysSkint , I'm always game to test.

    @JBB said: I'd be fine with migrating early from Chicago to OKC to help test things out, but only with dedicated IPv4.

    @localhost said:
    I am in for OKC @VirMach

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I've got plenty of services to migrate for testing :)

    Only one thing I can think of that would likely be a restriction: it can't be a service with more than one IPv4 for the time being as we're going to be insanely short on them.

    @imok said:
    Is 1200GB NVMe server finally here?

    @VirMach said: We still technically have hundreds of E3's, some E5's

    Where are the deals?

    I'll make a weird dedicated server for you and let you know in case you're interested.

    @yoursunny said:

    @VirMach said:
    Network will be done with an IPv6 focus

    Is it routed ?

    We're likely going to to purchase a router, maybe an MX480. Otherwise I'll just plug in the Cogent 1G line into one server directly.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED

    @VirMach said: it can't be a service with more than one IPv4 for the time being..

    That rules out my remaining Chicago VPS, for now. ;)

    Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
    :popcorn:

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @VirMach said: Only one thing I can think of that would likely be a restriction: it can't be a service with more than one IPv4 for the time being as we're going to be insanely short on them.

    If Chicago is the preferred, or only location, that can me migrated to OKC I'd be willing to give up my 3 extra IPv4 to do so. An appropriate price reduction would be appreciated, but is not required. If Atlanta, NYC, or Los Angeles can be migrated to OKC then I have single IPv4 VMs that can be used.

  • sh97sh97 Top MJJ

    Damn, I only have one at the locations which I currently have. Guess I have to look for a neat virbot deal to migrate to OKC.

  • edited April 2025

    @VirMach ,Hello, could you please check my ticket #269887? I am unable to log in to pay my bill. Thank you!

  • @yoursunny said:
    It appears that the New York migration has resulted in total data loss.

    Booting from Hard Disk...
    Boot failed: not a bootable disk
    
    No bootable device.
    

    GParted has detected a 15GB block device without any partition:

    SolusVM says the server should have 60GB storage, not 15GB.
    We are losing millions per hour.

    Ticket Created #122818

    It's been one week.
    We are losing millions and all we got is a lousy message:

    We're currently experiencing communication issues with the server management system. Basic information is displayed below. Full controls will be restored once connectivity is re-established.

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  • OPTIONAL RYZEN UPGRADE
    There's no reason for us to set up older hardware if you would prefer to pay an additional amount to upgrade to a Ryzen server instead. We will allow anyone to upgrade their service if desired, when migrating. This must be selected/arranged before migration occurs and cannot be altered at a later time. We will have a set deadline, at a future time per our communication.

    Switch to Ryzen 3700X/5600X or Equivalent + NVMe

    We will decide on a suitable Ryzen processor. This may range from 6 to 8 cores and generally be in the $200 to $300 price range, with 65W TDP.
    Your 2x1TB SSD option will change from SATA to 2x 1TB NVMe SSD.
    RAM amount will most likely be 32GB DDR4 but we may provide 64GB DDR4 at an additional cost to be determined based on RAM pricing at time of deployment (+$10-15/MO.)
    Additional Cost:
    +$350 ONE-TIME | OR | +$200/YR | OR | +$40/MO

    These are not meant to be an "upsell" so please do not feel obligated. In fact, this ends up costing us more money so we discourage it ;)

    Example:
    E3-HDL purchased for $27.30/MO or $273/YR becomes $67.30/MO or $473/YR with no setup fees. Or, optionally remain at $27.30/MO or $273/YR with $350 one-time fee.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED

    @Virmach - correction to the above mentioned ID (didn't realise it had 2IP).
    Both/either available for migration: 720387 (ATL) & 720538 (NYC)

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
    Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
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  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    Good evening

  • edited April 2025

    @Virmach, when can we move to OKC?
    and what should be in the subject of the ticket, "move this to OKC"?

  • Feel free to take my handful of idlers extremely important servers left in Chicago and move them to OKC if they abide.

    I have too much NYC and... 40 something others. :)

  • rootroot OG
    edited April 2025

    Hey @VirMach

    1. What is the transfer fee of Virmach nowadays?
    2. Who pays the invoice if there is a fee? The seller or the buyer?
    3. Is there some automated way for transferring, or one just needs to open ticket (old fashioned way)?
  • @yoursunny said:

    @yoursunny said:
    It appears that the New York migration has resulted in total data loss.

    Booting from Hard Disk...
    Boot failed: not a bootable disk
    
    No bootable device.
    

    GParted has detected a 15GB block device without any partition:

    SolusVM says the server should have 60GB storage, not 15GB.
    We are losing millions per hour.

    Ticket Created #122818

    It's been one week.
    We are losing millions and all we got is a lousy message:

    We're currently experiencing communication issues with the server management system. Basic information is displayed below. Full controls will be restored once connectivity is re-established.

    We finally got a reply:

    We apologize for the billions of dollars in revenue losses. We've assigned this to our Director of Customer Success Engineering, and they should reach out soon to set up a 20-30 minute Zoom call to get this straightened out.
    I'll provide an update in the next 30 minutes to 36 business hours.

    Since we don't have Zoom, we called +1 800 877 2176 the phone number listed on VirmAche website.
    The voice identified himself as Mr Ouwye Sofia Lane, the Director of Customer Success Engineering, and told us to pound sand.
    Following the suggestion, we went outside to pound sand.
    When we came back from the sand pit, the VPS has came back from the dead, and all of the data has been restored.

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  • Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365
    edited April 2025

    @abjr said:
    Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

    just use grub to boot. it hasn't been working for long time

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @cybertech said:

    @abjr said:
    Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

    just use grub to boot. it hasn't been working for long time

    Are you suggesting grub can do a network install? This is news to me.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    @abjr said:

    @cybertech said:

    @abjr said:
    Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

    just use grub to boot. it hasn't been working for long time

    Are you suggesting grub can do a network install? This is news to me.

    https://netboot.xyz/docs/booting/grub/

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @abjr said:
    Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

    Been a few months since I installed using netboot on Virmach but worked last time, try this:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/176076/#Comment_176076

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027


    What are those?!

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    we need Virtfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusion

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  • @abjr said:
    Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

    I can confirm. I haven't had time to figure it out, I know some people talked about it earlier and I had a ticket about it with useful information from several months ago that I have to review as I think people already figured it out.

    If anyone remember, let me know please.

    @Linux said:

    @abjr said:
    Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

    Been a few months since I installed using netboot on Virmach but worked last time, try this:
    https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/176076/#Comment_176076

    Thanks

    @Jab said:

    What are those?!

    Dark mode support, courtesy of AI going through all our CSS and figuring out the specific overrides, plus a bit of work on my end tuning it. Doesn't look great, I'm going to have it refine the CSS to look a little less slapped together. Let me know if you have any suggestions.

    The continue button doesn't really do anything right now but it's a placeholder for some security we're adding as I think there must have been a recent new password dump somewhere that people are using to log into accounts. A lot of ideas for it, so we're going to start collecting some additional information on logins, then maybe disable credit cards or linked PayPal in some situations, prevent logins in others, and an extra layer of protection other than captcha for bruteforces. We might also re-introduce email second factor but a light version that only activates itself temporarily if you haven't logged in for a year plus or something like that.

  • @sh97 said:
    Yo Virmach, how's OKC coming up?

    Lumen connected. Cabinet will be fully set up mid-week with the router, switch, and a few servers. So we're still on schedule, only thing that changed is Cogent is delayed and Lumen is early.

  • what datacenter is it? i barely heard who selling Oklahoma server,because the network will route to dallas first,and the price also higher than dallas

  • @taizi said:
    what datacenter is it? i barely heard who selling Oklahoma server,because the network will route to dallas first,and the price also higher than dallas

    Depends.

    As for routing to Dallas first, I assume you mean if it has to get to the west coast. I know of a transit provider that has a 60G direct route to San Jose, it's just way too expensive. If we expand the location out, or other providers become interested, we could add that. About 2-3x the price of Lumen which is already several times the price of Cogent. They also have a direct route to Chicago. So if we do that, it would 100% be faster than Dallas at least to San Jose. I think it's already faster to Chicago.

    Compared to Dallas around 5 years ago, yes, it would have been more expensive. I'm sure there might be some datacenter left in Dallas that's still cheap but all the ones I know got acquired, and due to cheap power Dallas kind of got oversaturated and now those same facilities that maybe cost $800 for the same thing cost $2400.

    We're at 7725 W Reno.

    Right now we have direct connections to the following cities/areas:

    • Kansas. Goes to Colorado (and ends up in California)
    • Missouri. Goes to Illinois
    • Texas. Goes to East/West Coast
    • Oklahoma (Tulsa, has some other carriers and routes like north Texas to Colorado)
    • Arkansas. Goes to Tennessee --> Kentucky/Virginia--> DC/New York

    We also have the "better" route to Kansas, as in not just the one that goes to Kansas City, but also the one that goes straight north to Wichita and then to Denver. I think this also makes it faster to Denver than Dallas. As a result there's also a small chance it's faster to Seattle than Dallas. I don't remember but I think in testing, it was a bit faster.

    It does also use pretty unique routes to certain places so maybe could be better (or worse, let's say different) during any congestion.

    To San Jose, it's pretty equal right now.

    Plus there's a potential route to Los Angeles that'd likely be faster in the future. They're finally doing it, work expected to be completed 2026 (so probably 2027-2028 since everything usually gets delayed.)

  • edited April 2025

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    Thanks.

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @Ganonk said: Under Maintenance. We'll back Soon™

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027

    @sh97 said:
    Wow, VirMach!
    https://bgp.tools/as/25693
    Congrats on the new ASN!


    The meme must go on.

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  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    Is it good or bad?

  • @Jab said:

    @sh97 said:
    Wow, VirMach!
    https://bgp.tools/as/25693
    Congrats on the new ASN!


    The meme must go on.

    It's ColonCrossing remake.

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  • @cybertech said:

    @abjr said:

    @cybertech said:

    @abjr said:
    Can anyone else confirm that netboot.xyz does not work with Virmach anymore.
    I've tried on multiple VPS with multiple distributions.
    Kernel is fetched, initrd is fetched, and then it just loops right back to the menu.

    just use grub to boot. it hasn't been working for long time

    Are you suggesting grub can do a network install? This is news to me.

    https://netboot.xyz/docs/booting/grub/

    OK. Yes. I thought you were alluding so something else. I've done this with LILO in the past. Tested out on Virmach and it does work.

    Wonder if it has anything to do with grub using linux16 / initrd16

  • @skorous said:

    @skorous said:

    @Linux said:
    Is anyone able to use netboot to do a reinstall? When I try it netboot downloads the ISO but then goes back to the initial ISO selection screen (I think it can't find the storage device).

    I ran in to that. Can't remember if it was the version or what. I have notes on how I worked around it. I'll see if I can find them.

    Here's my notes:

    many thanks, working fine for me :+1:

  • @Ganonk said:

    @skorous said:

    @skorous said:

    @Linux said:
    Is anyone able to use netboot to do a reinstall? When I try it netboot downloads the ISO but then goes back to the initial ISO selection screen (I think it can't find the storage device).

    I ran in to that. Can't remember if it was the version or what. I have notes on how I worked around it. I'll see if I can find them.

    Here's my notes:

    many thanks, working fine for me :+1:

    Excellent, glad I could help. :)

  • Every time I come back here I have to clear out a preloaded essay I was writing.

    Okay, so an update on Oklahoma: ready tomorrow (for us.) A few other things pushing into eachother but I'm pretty determined to at least plant the router there as soon as it's ready.

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