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  • The plan for migration seems good to me. Personally, I can rebuild my stuff pretty quickly and have good backups, so even a no data option if it made it easier for you guys (though time to code and test and stuff I guess prob makes it more work) would work too.

    One thing I haven't really seen updated in a while would be a list of IPs for each location so people can figure out where they do want to be? Or which providers they want to avoid shifty eyes ;)

  • edited September 2022

    Virmach, you really like piling on troublesome functionality? In theory, it should be good but I predict more work orders. :#

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  • edited September 2022

    @Virmach is there a specific reason that you don't allow rDNS to be set in SolusVM? A bug in your particular version? It'd take one item off your plate if we could set it ourselves.
    [Not that it'll help me 'cos I still don't get the 2FA email :'( Has your billing email server got on blacklists? ]

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  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider
    edited September 2022

    @AlwaysSkint said:
    @Virmach is there a specific reason that you don't allow rDNS to be set in SolusVM? A bug in your particular version? It'd take one item off your plate if we could set it ourselves.

    We have various providers and IP leases that all handle it differently. The largest provider won't really provide us with the basic functionality we desire and a lot of IP leasers are hesitant to provide full functionality. It was already difficult enough even locating a provider and getting IPv4 in time.

    Some prefer going the route of manually involving humans at every step and with the problems we've already had where they've threatened to end service, it wouldn't exactly be the best idea to flood them with a thousand rDNS requests at once and if they set PTR records and it turns out the person was a spammer, it'll be a really bad look.

    There are some blocks where allowing it to be set on SolusVM would be possible, but it would be very clustered and we'd have to organize it and build a system that either takes people to SolusVM to set it or to submit a manual request depending on the provider.

    Adding onto this, we still haven't finalized all IPv4 and we could process all of them only to have to re-process it again if an IPv4 provider drops out at this early stage.

    Finally, assuming we could theoretically set this up for ALL blocks on SolusVM which is a huge assumption to make, it wouldn't exactly help with abuse if everyone can freely set and change it without some kind of anti-abuse system in between to ensure we're not just making it easier on spammers. There's just a lot of thought and meticulous planning that has to be done and we haven't been in a position where I'd feel comfortable rushing it out right now.

    [Not that it'll help me 'cos I still don't get the 2FA email :'( Has your billing email server got on blacklists? ]

    Message me your e-mail address so I can make sure the email isn't being suppressed. If an email bounces, the way it works is it's permanently suppressed to avoid it from being mass blacklisted for sending unwanted emails.

    @Daevien said: One thing I haven't really seen updated in a while would be a list of IPs for each location so people can figure out where they do want to be? Or which providers they want to avoid shifty eyes

    I've been intentionally vague here. It'd be easy for us to share this list but it's not easy thinking through all the reasons why it'd be a bad idea and why we should not do it. If we publish a list where people can determine what they want to avoid, that creates a desire for something we may or may not be able to provide accommodation for when it comes to preferences. Myths will be started and then we'll have a thousand requests of people asking to be placed on specific servers.

    I do want to at least build out our system where people, where available, do get a choice between two datacenters if we have any locations with multiple providers. And it would probably also be beneficial if we can place people on certain IPv4 addresses based on their use cases. For example, if one provider is hypersensitive regarding phishing reports, those could end up being somehow marked as limited port access servers for 80/443 and that way we can funnel those to providers that don't care as much as we can reduce any potential restrictions.

    All of this would be a lot easier if we didn't have to accommodate the weird preferences of each provider but we don't live in a world where we can go based off our own principles right now. That would require a multi-million dollar IPv4 purchase and if we want to get super technical we'd also have to run our own facilities and transit because providers don't really go based off what I believe they should go by which is the law. This reminds me of the time we were contacted by a host who shall not be named, pestering us about a specific porn site being hosted that they didn't appreciate even though it was completely legal.

    @Daevien said: The plan for migration seems good to me. Personally, I can rebuild my stuff pretty quickly and have good backups, so even a no data option if it made it easier for you guys (though time to code and test and stuff I guess prob makes it more work) would work too.

    After essentially having to migrate every single virtual server over the last year or two we've gotten pretty good at processing these in bulk as long as they come in an organized fashion.

    If you can rebuild your stuff and want to make it easier on us, the go-to should be the existing Ryzen migrate button. We can still work on fixing these for specific cases where it's not letting you do it so feel free to discuss that (just let me know your plan name, the node it's currently on, where you're trying to move it, and the error displayed.)

    I think in my lifetime I clock in as having used the SolusVM migration tool well over 100,000 times so what's another 10,000?

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  • So Ryzen migrate without data is working again?

  • Sorry, but I'm worried about the buses.

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    @risturiz said:
    So Ryzen migrate without data is working again?

    It's working well enough that a bunch of people from HostLoc decided to edit elements and add in a Tokyo option which it validated on payment.

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  • Just a asking: is Ryzen Migrate available on all VPS?

  • Welcome Back Virmach :3

  • @risturiz said:
    So Ryzen migrate without data is working again?

    I tried "Ryzen Migrate" button from San Jose to Miami, and it still fails.

    @VirMach said:
    It's working well enough that a bunch of people from HostLoc decided to edit elements and add in a Tokyo option which it validated on payment.

    Tokyo will be nice.

    @VirMach said:
    I think we're finally ready to start offering free migrations with data for a limited time. This is so people can end up where they really want without the hassle of having to load everything back in, especially for those people that ended up getting forcefully moved to an undesired location. We got the migration tool working again and figured out what's causing it to break so we can do these in daily batches.

    No problem with the plan.
    The only part I dislike is: "We'll move you to a server with an IP block that may be swapped out in the future."

    @VirMach said:
    Quick update on XPG drives: I haven't had a chance to take them to the post office

    Still waiting.
    Maybe 2024 ?

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    @tototo said:
    Just a asking: is Ryzen Migrate available on all VPS?

    With some restrictions.

    At this point I don't even know what the restrictions are clearly but there's limits on the quantity/frequency of requests. Tokyo was taken off at some point in time, and it excludes around 1,000 customers at this point who are either marked as multiple accounts, previous abuse, or creating too many tickets, or creating tickets about the button.

    @yoursunny said:

    @risturiz said:
    So Ryzen migrate without data is working again?

    I tried "Ryzen Migrate" button from San Jose to Miami, and it still fails.

    I'll look into this again. It really should be working. Miami has a lot of people on there specifically from using the button. Private message me your VPS IP address and I can just move it manually at this point.

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    @yoursunny said:
    No problem with the plan.
    The only part I dislike is: "We'll move you to a server with an IP block that may be swapped out in the future."

    This is just a warning we're adding just because it might end up happening. We're not specifically moving people to nodes that will 100% have it changed but it's good for people to anticipate it and for us to communicate that in as many places as possible so there's no surprises.

    @yoursunny said:

    @VirMach said:
    Quick update on XPG drives: I haven't had a chance to take them to the post office

    Still waiting.
    Maybe 2024 ?

    These have been sitting on one of my desks with labels already printed and ready to go. I actually am worried now that the labels have a time limit on them. Post office never picked them up and I still haven't had time to go down to the post office... or anywhere really. I'm basically stuck in this part of the simulation (the office.) That reminds me, I probably need to take some Vitamin D pills.

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    Norwegian molecular distilled cod liver oil will be better choice.

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  • That reminds me, I probably need to take some Vitamin D pills

    There comes a certain age when Vitamin E becomes the required supplement, but most of us are a few years away from that situation.

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  • I would like to go to Miami too, it's still "I would like to go to Miami too, it's still"

  • @VirMach said:
    I've been intentionally vague here. It'd be easy for us to share this list but it's not easy thinking through all the reasons why it'd be a bad idea and why we should not do it.

    Well, it was more about stuff like Looking Glass so people could determine routes. I've already gotten active IPs to test in a lot of the locations from people so I can see what routes things take.

    But very good points on why you probably don't want to release all that stuff in general right now. Such a pain that IPv4 is such a disaster still after all these years of people saying how bad it will get but companies that can do those changes (aka home ISPs mostly) just refusing to.

    If you can rebuild your stuff and want to make it easier on us, the go-to should be the existing Ryzen migrate button. We can still work on fixing these for specific cases where it's not letting you do it so feel free to discuss that (just let me know your plan name, the node it's currently on, where you're trying to move it, and the error displayed.)

    Yeah, the main one I've been interested in moving seems to have broken functionality and I believe I've tried on a couple others as well and it just fails with a "We failed to submit the request, try tomorrow" or something to that effect message. I'll sort out where and what changes are really needed and see how your other system is by then, trying to not add any load onto the pile already gathered in your yard :p

    I still haven't had time to go down to the post office... or anywhere really. I'm basically stuck in this part of the simulation (the office.) That reminds me, I probably need to take some Vitamin D pills.

    You should like go outside before you turn completely into a vampire.. Though you may get results from some providers if they think you will get annoyed enough to drink their blood...

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  • @VirMach said:

    @yoursunny said:
    I tried "Ryzen Migrate" button from San Jose to Miami, and it still fails.

    I'll look into this again. It really should be working. Miami has a lot of people on there specifically from using the button. Private message me your VPS IP address and I can just move it manually at this point.

    PM sent.
    Hopefully it works this time.

    @VirMach said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @VirMach said:
    Quick update on XPG drives: I haven't had a chance to take them to the post office

    Still waiting.
    Maybe 2024 ?

    These have been sitting on one of my desks with labels already printed and ready to go. I actually am worried now that the labels have a time limit on them. Post office never picked them up and I still haven't had time to go down to the post office... or anywhere really. I'm basically stuck in this part of the simulation (the office.) That reminds me, I probably need to take some Vitamin D pills.

    According to shipping school: Technically, USPS shipping labels expire 28 days after you purchase them.

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  • Is your Tokyo location ready for new order? I just need a small VPS to watch porn. :p

  • FrankZFrankZ Moderator
    edited September 2022

    @VirMach said:
    I think we're finally ready to start offering free migrations with data for a limited time. ...
    yoursunny @FrankZ tagging you specifically as we kind of discussed this a little bit in the past and I'm interested in hearing your feedback if you're around.

    I'm here, have a couple VMs that I would like to move (that do not have a Ryzen migrate button), have no issues with the caveats, and would be happy to provide feedback and possibly deal with broken VM.

    @VirMach said:
    1. We're going to try and code something out where you pick three preferred locations. We will try to move you to your first preference, but may move you to your 2nd or 3rd preference. We'll allow you to pick your existing location as a preference if you'd rather it just be cancelled and not completed if your first preference isn't available (you pick it as second preference.)
    2. If we don't do this and it's just one preference selected, we'll reply back and say it's going to go in an indefinite queue to migrate when available. You can cancel this if you'd like by just closing the ticket.

    IMO either of these options would be good.

    Stating the 72 hour window, 24 hour possible downtime, possible need to manually reconfigure networking, and possible future IP changes is IMO a good thing. I think that you should make it reasonable to do, but not overly appealing so people think about if they really want to do it or not. Otherwise i expect you will get people jumping around every time a server gets 5% steal.


    @skorous said:
    @FrankZ , well attempted getting Biloh to even tangentially address his own part in events. Sad to see him ignore you completely. :-/

    Personally, I found his lack of response rather ironic given his previous comments about VirMach.

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  • @VirMach said:

    @tototo said:
    Just a asking: is Ryzen Migrate available on all VPS?

    With some restrictions.

    At this point I don't even know what the restrictions are clearly but there's limits on the quantity/frequency of requests. Tokyo was taken off at some point in time, and it excludes around 1,000 customers at this point who are either marked as multiple accounts, previous abuse, or creating too many tickets, or creating tickets about the button.

    BF-Special-2020 doesn't have Ryzen Migrate button, but KVM-Special-512 and Ryzen Special 384 have it. Technically, this is just a report because I am in no hurry.

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  • @Daevien said: You should like go outside before you turn completely into a vampire.. Though you may get results from some providers if they think you will get annoyed enough to drink their blood...

    vampirehost.net is available to register without a premium. ($4999 for vampirehost.com)
    I can see the thread titles now...

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  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider
    edited September 2022

    @Daevien said:

    @VirMach said:
    I've been intentionally vague here. It'd be easy for us to share this list but it's not easy thinking through all the reasons why it'd be a bad idea and why we should not do it.

    Well, it was more about stuff like Looking Glass so people could determine routes. I've already gotten active IPs to test in a lot of the locations from people so I can see what routes things take.

    I do need to finish up the Looking Glass. I'll set up some time to do that before I forget again.

    @yoursunny said:

    @VirMach said:

    @yoursunny said:
    I tried "Ryzen Migrate" button from San Jose to Miami, and it still fails.

    I'll look into this again. It really should be working. Miami has a lot of people on there specifically from using the button. Private message me your VPS IP address and I can just move it manually at this point.

    PM sent.
    Hopefully it works this time.

    Migrating now.

    @windytime said:
    Is your Tokyo location ready for new order? I just need a small VPS to watch porn. :p

    We have 20 servers or so left over and I could send half to Tokyo. I was going to wait to get 5950X and Gen4 NVMe for Tokyo but looking at the usage levels it doesn't really make sense to do that as most people are just using it for a VPN or light usage. Most the nodes there are between 17-29% CPU usage there and even the highest usage server is only at 51% right now, arguably during peak hours.

    Tokyo also has a lot of IPv4 from a reliable provider.

    I'm setting up another node tonight and using it to either finish activating the leftovers from several months ago and/or for TYOC040 if I can't get that fixed in some other way. So there will definitely be some space available if we can fend off HostLoc and the next mass plan they have of breaking our systems to get on there forcefully. And then in the coming weeks we should have a lot more space available there once I ship off the nodes I mentioned along with the storage node and 10G switch.

    @FrankZ said:
    I'm here, have a couple VMs that I would like to move (that do not have a Ryzen migrate button), have no issues with the caveats, and would be happy to provide feedback and possibly deal with broken VM

    I'm curious as to why it's not showing up for you. Can you private message me the IP for one so I can have a firsthand look?

    @FrankZ said:
    Personally, I found his lack of response rather ironic given his previous comments about VirMach.

    It's not unlike him. It's basically how he dealt with any issues we had when we were with them, to an astronomically higher level of frustration and sleaziness.

    @tototo said:
    BF-Special-2020 doesn't have Ryzen Migrate button, but KVM-Special-512 and Ryzen Special 384 have it. Technically, this is just a report because I am in no hurry.

    Okay that's helpful information. We probably just didn't activate it for that specific plan which would have been nice to know sooner so we could've fixed it. I'm sure many people mentioned it and I just missed it or I passed it on to our developer which left it out one of the version changes.

    @FrankZ said:

    @Daevien said: You should like go outside before you turn completely into a vampire.. Though you may get results from some providers if they think you will get annoyed enough to drink their blood...

    vampirehost.net is available to register without a premium. ($4999 for vampirehost.com)
    I can see the thread titles now...

    I own so many domains that I'll never use. There's probably 500 VirMach sister sites ready to launch. If only it wasn't $4999

    With all the negative VirMach sentiment it'd be funny if we reached a point where we did launch one of the sister websites and someone on OGF commented something along the lines of "VirMach is trash. I personally use and they've been great."

  • FrankZFrankZ Moderator
    edited September 2022

    @VirMach said:

    @FrankZ said:
    I'm here, have a couple VMs that I would like to move (that do not have a Ryzen migrate button), have no issues with the caveats, and would be happy to provide feedback and possibly deal with broken VM

    I'm curious as to why it's not showing up for you. Can you private message me the IP for one so I can have a firsthand look?

    PM'd

    @VirMach said: With all the negative VirMach sentiment it'd be funny if we reached a point where we did launch one of the sister websites and someone on OGF commented something along the lines of "VirMach is trash. I personally use and they've been great."

    Magic 8 ball says this will happen in the not too distant future. :wink:

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  • @vyas said: most of us are a few years away from that situation.

    Speak for yourself. :'(

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  • @VirMach mach
    Many thanks for the well-considered and comprehensive reply. Makes sense. :)
    PM'd email addy. Thanks again.

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  • @VirMach, can you add Monero in the list of supported cryptocurrencies?

  • @skorous said:

    @WeiHo said:

    @skorous said:

    @WeiHo said:

    Poor TYOC035.He was ignored.

    Not ignored.

    But TYOC40 is In Progress now.TYOC035 still Outage.

    You should lookup the definition of "ignored".

    Neglect,forget,disregard,omit.Find your favorite

  • @WeiHo said:

    @skorous said:

    @WeiHo said:

    @skorous said:

    @WeiHo said:

    Poor TYOC035.He was ignored.

    Not ignored.

    But TYOC40 is In Progress now.TYOC035 still Outage.

    You should lookup the definition of "ignored".

    Neglect,forget,disregard,omit.Find your favorite

    Those are synonyms. The definition is: "refuse to take notice of or acknowledge; disregard intentionally." First one is out since he acknowledged it the day previous. Second one requires intent and again, he acknowledged it the day before saying he's evaluating a window so you'll have a difficult time making a case you that either. In short, prioritizing one machine does not mean the other is ignored.

  • vps1 is live in MIAZ011 now.
    It's migrated with data too.
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    • El Marqués, Mexico: 46ms
    • San José, Costa Rica: 62ms
    • Santiago, Chile: 131ms
    • Fortaleza, Brazil: 68ms
    • Sāo Paulo, Brazil: 115ms
    • Buenos Aires, Argentina: 130ms
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  • @VirMach said: This reminds me of the time we were contacted by a host who shall not be named, pestering us about a specific porn site being hosted that they didn't appreciate even though it was completely legal.

    Host don't need to be named, but name the porn site! ;')

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