@nutjob said:
I don't know what you're trying to convince people of, but so far you've only proved you're mentally ill. Seriously.
Maybe spend some time away from the computer for a while, m'kay?
I didn't try to convince him, I just realized that he didn't seem to understand my posts (actually not only him, but also a lot of people from China), so I retold it in Chinese.
I've stripped out unnecessary paragraphs to keep it simple. You can also update your citations to reduce space usage.
Also yes, I'm using the same hysterical way as VirMach to against him. Do I act like him?
Are these a complete description of what happened?
You only have one account with a $5 OpenVZ (upgraded to Ryzen) on it.
You ordered a $2.22 flash sale server and bought three $0.25 Tokyo servers with this account. After waiting 20 days without any of them being activated, you submitted a ticket to request one of them, and they were all canceled and refunded.
Because of the three $0.25 Tokyo servers, your account was flagged, but your $5 OpenVZ was still intact. You responded to a system ticket explaining that your account had been disabled.
You became angry and asked Virmach to cancel your $5 OpenVZ service and give you a refund.
Here's an alternative description of what happened, but that does sound about right.
Orders placed for 3x $0.25 which went out of stock, and we were working to cancel/refund as soon as possible. These may have been cancelled and refunded sooner but 20 day wait as he mentioned could have been possible. The $2.22 flash sale was stuck/pending for everyone.
His account was already marked. Just not officially, we did a manual check/confirmation so any time we interact and see it we did that. So it's not some weird conspiracy that it happened after he placed orders and then ticket. This is to ensure that particular system is more fair.
He would not have been approved no matter what on the 3x $0.25 because everyone left over was getting cancelled, it was sold out. I didn't expect 1000~ orders all for only Tokyo within a few hours, my mistake.
The $2.22 would not have been approved either due to the note. All we did was cancel/refund him sooner as he made the ticket instead of him waiting longer for the same fate.
Then there were several other tickets involved where he was upset.
His $5 service was refunded, it's still active. All other payments were obviously refunded since they were not fulfilled.
(edit) Oh and multi account flag previously would not allow you to place more orders, or to use priority department, and you also couldn't make custom title tickets under 12 characters long for the title.
Are these a complete description of what happened?
You only have one account with a $5 OpenVZ (upgraded to Ryzen) on it.
You ordered a $2.22 flash sale server and bought three $0.25 Tokyo servers with this account. After waiting 20 days without any of them being activated, you submitted a ticket to request one of them, and they were all canceled and refunded.
Because of the three $0.25 Tokyo servers, your account was flagged, but your $5 OpenVZ was still intact. You responded to a system ticket explaining that your account had been disabled.
You became angry and asked Virmach to cancel your $5 OpenVZ service and give you a refund.
Here's an alternative description of what happened, but that does sound about right.
Orders placed for 3x $0.25 which went out of stock, and we were working to cancel/refund as soon as possible. These may have been cancelled and refunded sooner but 20 day wait as he mentioned could have been possible. The $2.22 flash sale was stuck/pending for everyone.
His account was already marked. Just not officially, we did a manual check/confirmation so any time we interact and see it we did that. So it's not some weird conspiracy that it happened after he placed orders and then ticket. This is to ensure that particular system is more fair.
He would not have been approved no matter what on the 3x $0.25 because everyone left over was getting cancelled, it was sold out. I didn't expect 1000~ orders all for only Tokyo within a few hours, my mistake.
The $2.22 would not have been approved either due to the note. All we did was cancel/refund him sooner as he made the ticket instead of him waiting longer for the same fate.
Then there were several other tickets involved where he was upset.
His $5 service was refunded, it's still active. All other payments were obviously refunded since they were not fulfilled.
(edit) Oh and multi account flag previously would not allow you to place more orders, or to use priority department, and you also couldn't make custom title tickets under 12 characters long for the title.
He still hasn't post evidence that I have multiple accounts again.
Even if you tell me what is the email address of my other account?
Let us slap Virmach in the face again.
The $2.22 would not have been approved either due to the note. All we did was cancel/refund him sooner as he made the ticket instead of him waiting longer for the same fate.
It looks like he placed an order for a $2.22 flash special and he's just upset it got cancelled and refunded. It got cancelled and refunded because he has multiple accounts.
I don't know why he keeps saying I have multiple accounts, I keep asking him to show evidence, even if he tells me what is the email address of my other account... he never does :'(
Are these a complete description of what happened?
You only have one account with a $5 OpenVZ (upgraded to Ryzen) on it.
You ordered a $2.22 flash sale server and bought three $0.25 Tokyo servers with this account. After waiting 20 days without any of them being activated, you submitted a ticket to request one of them, and they were all canceled and refunded.
Because of the three $0.25 Tokyo servers, your account was flagged, but your $5 OpenVZ was still intact. You responded to a system ticket explaining that your account had been disabled.
You became angry and asked Virmach to cancel your $5 OpenVZ service and give you a refund.
我发送工单#217532后他标记了我的账户，在此之前，我的账户一切正常。可以下单，可以创建工单，服务按钮完整。
I sent ticket #217532 and then he flagged my account, before that everything was fine with my account.
I recommend that virmach posts the operation logs with timestamps.
Sure, why not, but I doubt any of this will change your mind. I'm sure you will still claim it's fabricated or whatever else. Obviously I'm taking out all the logs in between that are irrelevant and taking out sensitive data.
Also it looks like over the past few months, there were about 6 email changes on your account, and about 20 IP changes. Any of these could have contributed toward your account being flagged, the process for appealing a potential positive would have been following instructions on appeal page and providing details. Unfortunately, the process doesn't involve making 5 angry tickets, it needs to just be a single appeal one where you provide information and we look into it further.
01/11/2023 16:16 - Order placed ($22 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/14/2023 07:25 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/14/2023 14:27 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 11:03 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 21:16 - Order placed ($8 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/17/2023 10:00 - Ticket for upgrading your $5 plan (this is when our system auto replied)
Posted on Monday 23rd January at 14:39 - Ticket where you initially complain. This is a different log format as I grabbed it from ticket. This is the mentioned ticket 217532
01/23/2023 14:48 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 14:48 - You removed cancellation
01/23/2023 14:49 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 15:03 - Most recent multi-account detection.
01/24/2023 06:32 - Refund for $2.22
01/24/2023 06:34 - I confirmed it/applied the flag after refunding. 01/24/2023 10:03 - I set status of ticket to "On Hold"
01/26/2023 17:34 - You close the ticket
03/03/2023 03:50 - You remove cancellation request
03/03/2023 03:51 - You cancelled $5 service
Anyway, looks like I didn't interact with that ticket until after the order queue, on the next day, about 4 hours after the $2.22 was refunded and flag was set. Not that it matters, but I mean I guess it seems to matter to you.
@mant said: I don't know why he keeps saying I have multiple accounts, I keep asking him to show evidence, even if he tells me what is the email address of my other account... he never does
Since the flag isn't there anymore, you can't appeal it, but if you go back in time and click the button for that we could discuss it in that ticket. Consider next time in a different life not freaking out and spamming tickets and instead make one ticket to see what's going on with that instead.
Are these a complete description of what happened?
You only have one account with a $5 OpenVZ (upgraded to Ryzen) on it.
You ordered a $2.22 flash sale server and bought three $0.25 Tokyo servers with this account. After waiting 20 days without any of them being activated, you submitted a ticket to request one of them, and they were all canceled and refunded.
Because of the three $0.25 Tokyo servers, your account was flagged, but your $5 OpenVZ was still intact. You responded to a system ticket explaining that your account had been disabled.
You became angry and asked Virmach to cancel your $5 OpenVZ service and give you a refund.
我发送工单#217532后他标记了我的账户，在此之前，我的账户一切正常。可以下单，可以创建工单，服务按钮完整。
I sent ticket #217532 and then he flagged my account, before that everything was fine with my account.
I recommend that virmach posts the operation logs with timestamps.
Sure, why not, but I doubt any of this will change your mind. I'm sure you will still claim it's fabricated or whatever else. Obviously I'm taking out all the logs in between that are irrelevant and taking out sensitive data.
Also it looks like over the past few months, there were about 6 email changes on your account, and about 20 IP changes. Any of these could have contributed toward your account being flagged, the process for appealing a potential positive would have been following instructions on appeal page and providing details. Unfortunately, the process doesn't involve making 5 angry tickets, it needs to just be a single appeal one where you provide information and we look into it further.
01/11/2023 16:16 - Order placed ($22 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/14/2023 07:25 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/14/2023 14:27 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 11:03 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 21:16 - Order placed ($8 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/17/2023 10:00 - Ticket for upgrading your $5 plan (this is when our system auto replied)
Posted on Monday 23rd January at 14:39 - Ticket where you initially complain. This is a different log format as I grabbed it from ticket. This is the mentioned ticket 217532
01/23/2023 14:48 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 14:48 - You removed cancellation
01/23/2023 14:49 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 15:03 - Most recent multi-account detection.
01/24/2023 06:32 - Refund for $2.22
01/24/2023 06:34 - I confirmed it/applied the flag after refunding. 01/24/2023 10:03 - I set status of ticket to "On Hold"
01/26/2023 17:34 - You close the ticket
03/03/2023 03:50 - You remove cancellation request
03/03/2023 03:51 - You cancelled $5 service
Anyway, looks like I didn't interact with that ticket until after the order queue, on the next day, about 4 hours after the $2.22 was refunded and flag was set. Not that it matters, but I mean I guess it seems to matter to you.
I still don't see evidence of my multiple accounts, what is my other account?
If you mean the change of email address, please post the time of the change. I changed my email address and gave up my account after I was completely disappointed with you.
Are these a complete description of what happened?
You only have one account with a $5 OpenVZ (upgraded to Ryzen) on it.
You ordered a $2.22 flash sale server and bought three $0.25 Tokyo servers with this account. After waiting 20 days without any of them being activated, you submitted a ticket to request one of them, and they were all canceled and refunded.
Because of the three $0.25 Tokyo servers, your account was flagged, but your $5 OpenVZ was still intact. You responded to a system ticket explaining that your account had been disabled.
You became angry and asked Virmach to cancel your $5 OpenVZ service and give you a refund.
我发送工单#217532后他标记了我的账户，在此之前，我的账户一切正常。可以下单，可以创建工单，服务按钮完整。
I sent ticket #217532 and then he flagged my account, before that everything was fine with my account.
I recommend that virmach posts the operation logs with timestamps.
Sure, why not, but I doubt any of this will change your mind. I'm sure you will still claim it's fabricated or whatever else. Obviously I'm taking out all the logs in between that are irrelevant and taking out sensitive data.
Also it looks like over the past few months, there were about 6 email changes on your account, and about 20 IP changes. Any of these could have contributed toward your account being flagged, the process for appealing a potential positive would have been following instructions on appeal page and providing details. Unfortunately, the process doesn't involve making 5 angry tickets, it needs to just be a single appeal one where you provide information and we look into it further.
01/11/2023 16:16 - Order placed ($22 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/14/2023 07:25 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/14/2023 14:27 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 11:03 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 21:16 - Order placed ($8 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/17/2023 10:00 - Ticket for upgrading your $5 plan (this is when our system auto replied)
Posted on Monday 23rd January at 14:39 - Ticket where you initially complain. This is a different log format as I grabbed it from ticket. This is the mentioned ticket 217532
01/23/2023 14:48 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 14:48 - You removed cancellation
01/23/2023 14:49 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 15:03 - Most recent multi-account detection.
01/24/2023 06:32 - Refund for $2.22
01/24/2023 06:34 - I confirmed it/applied the flag after refunding. 01/24/2023 10:03 - I set status of ticket to "On Hold"
01/26/2023 17:34 - You close the ticket
03/03/2023 03:50 - You remove cancellation request
03/03/2023 03:51 - You cancelled $5 service
Anyway, looks like I didn't interact with that ticket until after the order queue, on the next day, about 4 hours after the $2.22 was refunded and flag was set. Not that it matters, but I mean I guess it seems to matter to you.
I still don't see evidence of my multiple accounts, what is my other account?
Did you even look at what I quoted when I replied? Maybe take a breath between your posts so you realize that you've posted so much that there's no way for me to address it all, what I addressed is what I addressed. Let's say you do not have multiple accounts, what does that change?
Your order was still cancelled. We're not obligated to sell to you.
You still spammed tickets, you still acted the way you did. In no situation would your order have been restored if you act the way you did because why would I want you as a customer?
@mant said:
I sent ticket #217532 and then he flagged my account, before that everything was fine with my account.
Okay, even though I don't know what is in ticket #217532 and what your attitude towards Virmach was before, based on the information provided by you and Virmach, I can make the following observations:
You repeated purchase of the $0.25 Tokyo servers is enough for Virmach to make a preliminary judgment on you, but this is not irrevocable. You may need to provide evidence, as Virmach itself has made some mistakes in this matter.
All $0.25 services will not be delivered due to lack of stock.
The $2.22 order will also be affected because you have not provided any evidence of your own operational error and your attitude has been extremely poor (I have looked at your recent posts in this thread).
You ended up giving a one-star rating.
I don't know why he keeps saying I have multiple accounts, I keep asking him to show evidence, even if he tells me what is the email address of my other account... he never does :'(
Multiple accounts may not be the final word, but only a preliminary determination of your suspicious behavior.
@mant
Serious question.
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
Are these a complete description of what happened?
You only have one account with a $5 OpenVZ (upgraded to Ryzen) on it.
You ordered a $2.22 flash sale server and bought three $0.25 Tokyo servers with this account. After waiting 20 days without any of them being activated, you submitted a ticket to request one of them, and they were all canceled and refunded.
Because of the three $0.25 Tokyo servers, your account was flagged, but your $5 OpenVZ was still intact. You responded to a system ticket explaining that your account had been disabled.
You became angry and asked Virmach to cancel your $5 OpenVZ service and give you a refund.
我发送工单#217532后他标记了我的账户，在此之前，我的账户一切正常。可以下单，可以创建工单，服务按钮完整。
I sent ticket #217532 and then he flagged my account, before that everything was fine with my account.
I recommend that virmach posts the operation logs with timestamps.
Sure, why not, but I doubt any of this will change your mind. I'm sure you will still claim it's fabricated or whatever else. Obviously I'm taking out all the logs in between that are irrelevant and taking out sensitive data.
Also it looks like over the past few months, there were about 6 email changes on your account, and about 20 IP changes. Any of these could have contributed toward your account being flagged, the process for appealing a potential positive would have been following instructions on appeal page and providing details. Unfortunately, the process doesn't involve making 5 angry tickets, it needs to just be a single appeal one where you provide information and we look into it further.
01/11/2023 16:16 - Order placed ($22 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/14/2023 07:25 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/14/2023 14:27 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 11:03 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 21:16 - Order placed ($8 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/17/2023 10:00 - Ticket for upgrading your $5 plan (this is when our system auto replied)
Posted on Monday 23rd January at 14:39 - Ticket where you initially complain. This is a different log format as I grabbed it from ticket. This is the mentioned ticket 217532
01/23/2023 14:48 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 14:48 - You removed cancellation
01/23/2023 14:49 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 15:03 - Most recent multi-account detection.
01/24/2023 06:32 - Refund for $2.22
01/24/2023 06:34 - I confirmed it/applied the flag after refunding. 01/24/2023 10:03 - I set status of ticket to "On Hold"
01/26/2023 17:34 - You close the ticket
03/03/2023 03:50 - You remove cancellation request
03/03/2023 03:51 - You cancelled $5 service
Anyway, looks like I didn't interact with that ticket until after the order queue, on the next day, about 4 hours after the $2.22 was refunded and flag was set. Not that it matters, but I mean I guess it seems to matter to you.
I still don't see evidence of my multiple accounts, what is my other account?
Did you even look at what I quoted when I replied? Maybe take a breath between your posts so you realize that you've posted so much that there's no way for me to address it all, what I addressed is what I addressed. Let's say you do not have multiple accounts, what does that change?
Your order was still cancelled. We're not obligated to sell to you.
You still spammed tickets, you still acted the way you did. In no situation would your order have been restored if you act the way you did because why would I want you as a customer?
Why did you concede? Didn't you insist that I have multiple accounts?
@mant said:
I sent ticket #217532 and then he flagged my account, before that everything was fine with my account.
Okay, even though I don't know what is in ticket #217532 and what your attitude towards Virmach was before, based on the information provided by you and Virmach, I can make the following observations:
You repeated purchase of the $0.25 Tokyo servers is enough for Virmach to make a preliminary judgment on you, but this is not irrevocable. You may need to provide evidence, as Virmach itself has made some mistakes in this matter.
All $0.25 services will not be delivered due to lack of stock.
The $2.22 order will also be affected because you have not provided any evidence of your own operational error and your attitude has been extremely poor (I have looked at your recent posts in this thread).
You ended up giving a one-star rating.
I don't know why he keeps saying I have multiple accounts, I keep asking him to show evidence, even if he tells me what is the email address of my other account... he never does :'(
Multiple accounts may not be the final word, but only a preliminary determination of your suspicious behavior.
@Mumbly said:
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
"舔狗/licking dog" is a Chinese internet slang term that refers to someone who is overly devoted to someone else and will do anything to please them, often in a romantic or sexual context. The term is often used derogatorily to describe individuals who are perceived as being subservient or desperate for the attention of their crush or partner, often going to extreme lengths to gain favor or affection.
@Mumbly said:
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
"舔狗/licking dog" is a Chinese internet slang term that refers to someone who is overly devoted to someone else and will do anything to please them, often in a romantic or sexual context. The term is often used derogatorily to describe individuals who are perceived as being subservient or desperate for the attention of their crush or partner, often going to extreme lengths to gain favor or affection.
I understand the meaning, but I was wondering about this same phrased frequently used explicitely in Virmach threads by almost identical complainers like @ruikno and @HuangxinYuan ... Some of those accounts like @JamesLebron are banned tho.
@Mumbly said:
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
"舔狗/licking dog" is a Chinese internet slang term that refers to someone who is overly devoted to someone else and will do anything to please them, often in a romantic or sexual context. The term is often used derogatorily to describe individuals who are perceived as being subservient or desperate for the attention of their crush or partner, often going to extreme lengths to gain favor or affection.
I understand the meaning, but I was wondering about this same phrased frequently used explicitely in Virmach threads by almost identical complainers. Some of those accounts like @JamesLebron are banned tho.
I think Mason posted earlier how this guy has multiple accounts here.
@Mumbly said:
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
"舔狗/licking dog" is a Chinese internet slang term that refers to someone who is overly devoted to someone else and will do anything to please them, often in a romantic or sexual context. The term is often used derogatorily to describe individuals who are perceived as being subservient or desperate for the attention of their crush or partner, often going to extreme lengths to gain favor or affection.
I understand the meaning, but I was wondering about this same phrased frequently used explicitely in Virmach threads by almost identical complainers. Some of those accounts like @JamesLebron are banned tho.
I think Mason posted earlier how this guy has multiple accounts here.
I don't think @HuangxinYuan is him otherwise it's definitive proof of multi account with us since he posted about his service being suspended and his service was not suspended on this account with us that I'm referencing.
@VirMach said:
Did you even look at what I quoted when I replied? Maybe take a breath between your posts so you realize that you've posted so much that there's no way for me to address it all, what I addressed is what I addressed. Let's say you do not have multiple accounts, what does that change?
Your order was still cancelled. We're not obligated to sell to you.
You still spammed tickets, you still acted the way you did. In no situation would your order have been restored if you act the way you did because why would I want you as a customer?
@mant said:
Why did you concede? Didn't you insist that I have multiple accounts?
Use a better translator.
你为什么怂了？你不是一直坚称我有多个账户吗？
Translate it yourself.
I understand what you said, and the translation there. However you must not understand what I said so I am assuming it's due to translation.
"Let's say you do not have multiple accounts"
假设地
Reply to you again. You may re-read my first post again.
-"So why do you want to restore your orders" A: You are in breach of contract by cancelling my order due to false accusations. If you sincerely want to fix your reputation, then you are obligated to fulfill the contract.
Is there no proper solution to the farce so far? Why haven't other businesses encountered these problems? Virmach's system bugs have caused countless problems, and then the boss has limited ability to fix them, complaining that customers are not sensible. Now that both sides are hurting, who wins? It is worth reflecting on!
@ccec said:
Is there no proper solution to the farce so far? Why haven't other businesses encountered these problems? Virmach's system bugs have caused countless problems, and then the boss has limited ability to fix them, complaining that customers are not sensible. Now that both sides are hurting, who wins? It is worth reflecting on!
Obviously Mr. R won.. They got a $25/year customer, and potential future customers (who have read this post)..
@virmach have to create a network connection issue ticket.
PS: the ticket support page is great improvement . There is a bug when submit ticket. it always ask me upload attachment, the webpage focus on the file upload button but not submit. 154.9.205.52/suportticket.png
Okay, just to better understand what the other person is trying to say, they will not be used to communicate with other people whose native language is not Chinese.
@Caxen said:
Okay, just to better understand what the other person is trying to say, they will not be used to communicate with other people whose native language is not Chinese.
@Mumbly said: @mant
Serious question.
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
"licking dog" refers to people with great desire for something beyond reach.
"licking" instead of direct eating and swallowing means the actor evaluates the thing very much.
"dog" means too much desire has turn a person into a brainless animal.
So you can say in Chinese,
Alice: "The flash sales of Virmach are really tempting."
（アリス：ガラスを傷つけずに食べられます。）
Bob: "Yeah, but I slept over yesterday therefore missed the offers."
（ボブ：国境の長い トンネルを抜けると、雪国であった。）
Alice: "Oh what a pity, but don't turn into a licking dog just because you missed it, you will get something far better in the near future."
（アリス：素早い茶色のキツネが怠け者の犬を飛び越えます。）
@mant said: I don't know why he keeps saying I have multiple accounts, I keep asking him to show evidence, even if he tells me what is the email address of my other account... he never does
Since the flag isn't there anymore, you can't appeal it, but if you go back in time and click the button for that we could discuss it in that ticket. Consider next time in a different life not freaking out and spamming tickets and instead make one ticket to see what's going on with that instead.
@Mumbly said:
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
"舔狗/licking dog" is a Chinese internet slang term that refers to someone who is overly devoted to someone else and will do anything to please them, often in a romantic or sexual context. The term is often used derogatorily to describe individuals who are perceived as being subservient or desperate for the attention of their crush or partner, often going to extreme lengths to gain favor or affection.
No, you're wrong.
It means people who have great desire for something beyond reach.
See my explanation here.
As of now, I see no reason to change my mind. The content of the ticket you provided is very helpful in allowing people to form their own judgments.
Clearly.
I was respectful in my early ticket replies (picture 1 and 2), but he never replied.
I was no longer willing to respect him in my late ticket, and then he blocked my account.
This is the hypocritical VirMach.
Until we make a Chinese speaking forum section, please stick to English.
Thank you.
I respect the rule of using mostly English in LES, but you should only delete the Chinese part of the content, not my complete replies, which I think do not exceed the minimum. Because I only quoted one paragraph and actually used no more than 20 characters.
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Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
@mant Did Virmach refund you after canceling your order?
bruh this thread
Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit.
seems like multiple nodes down in NYC
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
I didn't try to convince him, I just realized that he didn't seem to understand my posts (actually not only him, but also a lot of people from China), so I retold it in Chinese.
I've stripped out unnecessary paragraphs to keep it simple. You can also update your citations to reduce space usage.
Also yes, I'm using the same hysterical way as VirMach to against him. Do I act like him?
The Real VirMach - Beginning | The Real VirMach - Ending
Which ones?
https://statusbot.virm.ac/en/
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Oh those are just IP changes, I should probably update it for the live chat monitor.
Here's an alternative description of what happened, but that does sound about right.
Orders placed for 3x $0.25 which went out of stock, and we were working to cancel/refund as soon as possible. These may have been cancelled and refunded sooner but 20 day wait as he mentioned could have been possible. The $2.22 flash sale was stuck/pending for everyone.
His account was already marked. Just not officially, we did a manual check/confirmation so any time we interact and see it we did that. So it's not some weird conspiracy that it happened after he placed orders and then ticket. This is to ensure that particular system is more fair.
He would not have been approved no matter what on the 3x $0.25 because everyone left over was getting cancelled, it was sold out. I didn't expect 1000~ orders all for only Tokyo within a few hours, my mistake.
The $2.22 would not have been approved either due to the note. All we did was cancel/refund him sooner as he made the ticket instead of him waiting longer for the same fate.
Then there were several other tickets involved where he was upset.
His $5 service was refunded, it's still active. All other payments were obviously refunded since they were not fulfilled.
(edit) Oh and multi account flag previously would not allow you to place more orders, or to use priority department, and you also couldn't make custom title tickets under 12 characters long for the title.
He still hasn't post evidence that I have multiple accounts again.
Even if you tell me what is the email address of my other account?
Let us slap Virmach in the face again.
https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/126616/#Comment_126616
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I don't know why he keeps saying I have multiple accounts, I keep asking him to show evidence, even if he tells me what is the email address of my other account... he never does :'(
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Sure, why not, but I doubt any of this will change your mind. I'm sure you will still claim it's fabricated or whatever else. Obviously I'm taking out all the logs in between that are irrelevant and taking out sensitive data.
Also it looks like over the past few months, there were about 6 email changes on your account, and about 20 IP changes. Any of these could have contributed toward your account being flagged, the process for appealing a potential positive would have been following instructions on appeal page and providing details. Unfortunately, the process doesn't involve making 5 angry tickets, it needs to just be a single appeal one where you provide information and we look into it further.
01/11/2023 16:16 - Order placed ($22 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/14/2023 07:25 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/14/2023 14:27 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 11:03 - Refund for $0.25 order
01/16/2023 21:16 - Order placed ($8 special, not any of the others, not paid)
01/17/2023 10:00 - Ticket for upgrading your $5 plan (this is when our system auto replied)
Posted on Monday 23rd January at 14:39 - Ticket where you initially complain. This is a different log format as I grabbed it from ticket.
This is the mentioned ticket 217532
01/23/2023 14:48 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 14:48 - You removed cancellation
01/23/2023 14:49 - You cancelled $5 service
01/23/2023 15:03 - Most recent multi-account detection.
01/24/2023 06:32 - Refund for $2.22
01/24/2023 06:34 - I confirmed it/applied the flag after refunding.
01/24/2023 10:03 - I set status of ticket to "On Hold"
01/26/2023 17:34 - You close the ticket
03/03/2023 03:50 - You remove cancellation request
03/03/2023 03:51 - You cancelled $5 service
Anyway, looks like I didn't interact with that ticket until after the order queue, on the next day, about 4 hours after the $2.22 was refunded and flag was set. Not that it matters, but I mean I guess it seems to matter to you.
VirMach's penis is only 3cm, I have no evidence, this is my private note. no wonder he's still single at 30.. :'( :'(
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Since the flag isn't there anymore, you can't appeal it, but if you go back in time and click the button for that we could discuss it in that ticket. Consider next time in a different life not freaking out and spamming tickets and instead make one ticket to see what's going on with that instead.
That's rather large. I'm 29. I broke up with my girlfriend in May 2022 so I could answer MJJ tickets.
I still don't see evidence of my multiple accounts, what is my other account?
If you mean the change of email address, please post the time of the change. I changed my email address and gave up my account after I was completely disappointed with you.
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Did you even look at what I quoted when I replied? Maybe take a breath between your posts so you realize that you've posted so much that there's no way for me to address it all, what I addressed is what I addressed. Let's say you do not have multiple accounts, what does that change?
Your order was still cancelled. We're not obligated to sell to you.
You still spammed tickets, you still acted the way you did. In no situation would your order have been restored if you act the way you did because why would I want you as a customer?
Okay, even though I don't know what is in ticket #217532 and what your attitude towards Virmach was before, based on the information provided by you and Virmach, I can make the following observations:
You repeated purchase of the $0.25 Tokyo servers is enough for Virmach to make a preliminary judgment on you, but this is not irrevocable. You may need to provide evidence, as Virmach itself has made some mistakes in this matter.
All $0.25 services will not be delivered due to lack of stock.
The $2.22 order will also be affected because you have not provided any evidence of your own operational error and your attitude has been extremely poor (I have looked at your recent posts in this thread).
You ended up giving a one-star rating.
Multiple accounts may not be the final word, but only a preliminary determination of your suspicious behavior.
This should not be the focus.
from google translate
Backup.
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@mant
Serious question.
I saw several comments using "licking dog" phrase on the forum. Exactly those two words explicitly in Virmach threads. It this some Chinese thing or all those LES/LET posts originate from one person/multi-accounter?
Why did you concede? Didn't you insist that I have multiple accounts?
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I will post tickets' content. Hold on.
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Use a better translator.
"舔狗/licking dog" is a Chinese internet slang term that refers to someone who is overly devoted to someone else and will do anything to please them, often in a romantic or sexual context. The term is often used derogatorily to describe individuals who are perceived as being subservient or desperate for the attention of their crush or partner, often going to extreme lengths to gain favor or affection.
from google translate
I understand what you said, and the translation there. However you must not understand what I said so I am assuming it's due to translation.
"Let's say you do not have multiple accounts"
假设地
Here are all the tickets
@Caxen
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I understand the meaning, but I was wondering about this same phrased frequently used explicitely in Virmach threads by almost identical complainers like @ruikno and @HuangxinYuan ... Some of those accounts like @JamesLebron are banned tho.
I think Mason posted earlier how this guy has multiple accounts here.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
@mant @ruikno @HuangxinYuan @JamesLebron ...
I don't think @HuangxinYuan is him otherwise it's definitive proof of multi account with us since he posted about his service being suspended and his service was not suspended on this account with us that I'm referencing.
01/23/2023 15:03 - Most recent multi-account detection.
Details, please. Another account email address, please.
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Details, please. Another account email address, please.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/99637c4f-0c09-4ee3-898b-fc3f308a8cbb
Reply to you again. You may re-read my first post again.
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@VirMach I opened a $5 account upgrade project, but it always shows waiting. Can I cancel this account upgrade?
Is there no proper solution to the farce so far? Why haven't other businesses encountered these problems? Virmach's system bugs have caused countless problems, and then the boss has limited ability to fix them, complaining that customers are not sensible. Now that both sides are hurting, who wins? It is worth reflecting on!
Obviously Mr. R won.. They got a $25/year customer, and potential future customers (who have read this post)..
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@virmach have to create a network connection issue ticket.
PS: the ticket support page is great improvement . There is a bug when submit ticket. it always ask me upload attachment, the webpage focus on the file upload button but not submit.
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Hope you sort them out much easier.
@mant @Caxen & Co, please use English.
Forum rules:
https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/26/rules-rules-rules-rules-rules-info-updated-february-15th-2023/p1
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That post is for users from China who may not understand English, so please keep that post.
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Okay, just to better understand what the other person is trying to say, they will not be used to communicate with other people whose native language is not Chinese.
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Any updates about your vision?
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I might be misunderstanding something... do you mean VPS renewal fees?
As of now, I see no reason to change my mind. The content of the ticket you provided is very helpful in allowing people to form their own judgments.
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"licking dog" refers to people with great desire for something beyond reach.
"licking" instead of direct eating and swallowing means the actor evaluates the thing very much.
"dog" means too much desire has turn a person into a brainless animal.
So you can say in Chinese,
Alice: "The flash sales of Virmach are really tempting."
（アリス：ガラスを傷つけずに食べられます。）
Bob: "Yeah, but I slept over yesterday therefore missed the offers."
（ボブ：国境の長い トンネルを抜けると、雪国であった。）
Alice: "Oh what a pity, but don't turn into a licking dog just because you missed it, you will get something far better in the near future."
（アリス：素早い茶色のキツネが怠け者の犬を飛び越えます。）
MicroLXC is lovable.
Until we make a Chinese speaking forum section, please stick to English.
Thank you.
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Here is it. Let's see what is your response.
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No, you're wrong.
It means people who have great desire for something beyond reach.
See my explanation here.
MicroLXC is lovable.
Clearly.
I was respectful in my early ticket replies (picture 1 and 2), but he never replied.
I was no longer willing to respect him in my late ticket, and then he blocked my account.
This is the hypocritical VirMach.
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I respect the rule of using mostly English in LES, but you should only delete the Chinese part of the content, not my complete replies, which I think do not exceed the minimum. Because I only quoted one paragraph and actually used no more than 20 characters.
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I have a great idea that make a Chinese section now. Then watch the discussion about Virmach
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