As for buyshared, we haven’t had stock for over 2 years now. Sometime this year we will spin off the company into namecrane, our absolutely not vaporware domain registrar.
... just like other owners gave up in the past. Nothing new. It's not the first deadpool. it's not the last deadpool. It's nothing special (even though some fans want to make it look special). The popcorn drama is the same.
Hopefully @jarland will manage to save some services of clients. I respect him for his choice. A business should not be just about greed or money. This reminds me of Terrahost who managed to save some services from the fall of HostSolutions.
@havoc said:
Ooff...both my annual Nexus bills recently went through. Around 100 bucks. Think they're in Amsterdam
@rcy026 said: . But I would have said the same about Nexusbytes if you asked me a year ago, so take it for what it is.
If true I reckon that's gonna be my last LES/T class VPS due to the above problem. Just not worth the headache
Chargeback?
On what basis?
@Ympker said:
To be fair, NB has been MIA for over a year now, so that would probably make me at least cancel automatic renewals.
I cancelled them in February last year, just because there was no sign of life whatsoever. It also helped me in making the decision to not go for LE providers going forward. Still have a small storage box at Hoathatch and a cheap VM at Virmach (not companies I don’t see failing, but you’ll never know) and I think aim going to phase those out too. It just too risky.
I think it really comes down to the use-case and expectations. I am happily hosting my business website on @MikePT since I know, at any time, I can just pull a backup and migrate to another hosts with 3 clicks of AIO WP Migration/Updraft. With VPS/Servers, it's probably a bit more difficult, I can imagine. In that case, I have still been happy with LE providers but also don't run any mission-critical on there. Usually, I use LE providers for smth like private vpn, gameservers, testing some stuff, running yabs or idling.
I currently love my nat vps resource pool at @natvps_uk which allows me to spin up a few instances and play around a bit, run Wireguard or backup some stuff
I get what you are trying to say, though. With LE hosts there's always the risk that within 3-5 years, you'll have to find out if your backups really work. For my use cases, I wouldn't go as far as saying I won't order from LE hosts anymore. I love the community and the spirit of people here and there are some great hosts over here and at the other place. It is what it is, though.
As for buyshared, we haven’t had stock for over 2 years now. Sometime this year we will spin off the company into namecrane, our absolutely not vaporware domain registrar.
Francisco
You might want to renew that domain, so I can continue to visit your holding page every few months...
@Ympker said:
I get what you are trying to say, though. With LE hosts there's always the risk that within 3-5 years, you'll have to find out if your backups really work. For my use cases, I wouldn't go as far as saying I won't order from LE hosts anymore. I love the community and the spirit of people here and there are some great hosts over here and at the other place. It is what it is, though.
You're also not wrong, but this is more a "fool me once: shame on you, fool me twice: shame on me" type of situation. Hostdoc collapsing was my first deadpool and luckily my backup worked and with Jay going AWOL I knew there was going to be trouble there sooner or later, so I took my stuff elsewhere.
Now, I have three kinds of boxes. Experimental stuff, storage and 'set and forget' stuff, the latter being hosted projects (mostly longer term) that I don't want to think about every other day. I don't want to log in here and discover that I have to make a new backup, lose money and look for a new place for those.
None of my projects are commercial, I don't make money with it. And as time is also money I choose to rule out insecurity about longevity of the provider. Risks are never 0, but if you go with providers like Hetzner they're very small. Most of this stuff is currently hosted at PHP-Friends by the way.
For my experimental stuff (usually networking) I do sometimes use LE-providers. A NAT box or something I just happen to have a yearly for. For these it's not as problematic when I lose files as they're mostly just used for a month.
Went ahead and pulled the trigger on MyW's 25GB Reseller plan deal. Got the backup uploaded to there just now and updated my nameservers... so we're good, hopefully.
@Ympker said:
I get what you are trying to say, though. With LE hosts there's always the risk that within 3-5 years, you'll have to find out if your backups really work. For my use cases, I wouldn't go as far as saying I won't order from LE hosts anymore. I love the community and the spirit of people here and there are some great hosts over here and at the other place. It is what it is, though.
You're also not wrong, but this is more a "fool me once: shame on you, fool me twice: shame on me" type of situation. Hostdoc collapsing was my first deadpool and luckily my backup worked and with Jay going AWOL I knew there was going to be trouble there sooner or later, so I took my stuff elsewhere.
Now, I have three kinds of boxes. Experimental stuff, storage and 'set and forget' stuff, the latter being hosted projects (mostly longer term) that I don't want to think about every other day. I don't want to log in here and discover that I have to make a new backup, lose money and look for a new place for those.
None of my projects are commercial, I don't make money with it. And as time is also money I choose to rule out insecurity about longevity of the provider. Risks are never 0, but if you go with providers like Hetzner they're very small. Most of this stuff is currently hosted at PHP-Friends by the way.
For my experimental stuff (usually networking) I do sometimes use LE-providers. A NAT box or something I just happen to have a yearly for. For these it's not as problematic when I lose files as they're mostly just used for a month.
Totally get you, mate. It can become tiring, especially if your setup is not easy to migrate or just takes a whole lot of time to setup again. Even if it's "just for a hobby project". I once had to set up a gameserver again and it was a pita since I didn't have any backups.
Ofc, there's still incidents like OVH fire, but definitely more peace of mind with the "big guys".
That said, PHP-Friends are still a small to mid sized business. While they are solid, it's a compromise between supporting big players as in GoDaddy/DO, or some business like PHPFriends.
@Ympker said: That said, PHP-Friends are still a small to mid sized business. While they are solid, it's a compromise between supporting big players as in GoDaddy/DO, or some business like PHPFriends.
Yeah, but I'd rather support bigger players and not the faceless corporates. I see PHP-Friends as a good alternative for that. At least it's established and they have a big enough client base to not fail anytime more than 3 people cancel simultaneously. Also: it's not a one-man show.
@Ympker said: That said, PHP-Friends are still a small to mid sized business. While they are solid, it's a compromise between supporting big players as in GoDaddy/DO, or some business like PHPFriends.
Yeah, but I'd rather support bigger players and not the faceless corporates. I see PHP-Friends as a good alternative for that. At least it's established and they have a big enough client base to not fail anytime more than 3 people cancel simultaneously. Also: it's not a one-man show.
Nothing wrong with a one man show. Many of the "big boy" providers started that way and grew. Just need to scale out as you go and you should be fine.
This could happen to half the hosts in this part of industry. I am sad to see it happen with Jay, but for all we know he is the hospital on a ventilator fighting for life. I do know this is totally out of character for him and I hope he is doing well.
@deank said:
I hate (Yeah, right) to be a dick, but this is the circle of life within Low end world, ain't it?
I specifically avoid any hosts on LET and LES for this reason.
As for buyshared, we haven’t had stock for over 2 years now. Sometime this year we will spin off the company into namecrane, our absolutely not vaporware domain registrar.
Francisco
like the totally on-topic and active NC channel in your discord :-)
@CamoYoshi said:
Went ahead and pulled the trigger on MyW's 25GB Reseller plan deal. Got the backup uploaded to there just now and updated my nameservers... so we're good, hopefully.
This is rather a step back, he is the next candidate for a deadpool, his Ponzi scheme with Lifetime will fall sideways sooner or later
@CamoYoshi said:
Went ahead and pulled the trigger on MyW's 25GB Reseller plan deal. Got the backup uploaded to there just now and updated my nameservers... so we're good, hopefully.
This is rather a step back, he is the next candidate for a deadpool, his Ponzi scheme with Lifetime will fall sideways sooner or later
I like Mike but agreed, all that lifetime stuff just screams ponzi to me. I'd be a lot more comfy on a monthly/yearly plan, but I guess worst case it's pretty easy to move shared hosting stuff around. It's not like a full server, just site files.
@AuroraZero said:
Will some one please link me to the thread where hostsolutions imploded? I was not around then and need to see the shit show for myself.
Enjoy. Make sure you have lots of popcorn, you're going to need it.
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I once got pizza courtesy of Nexusbytes.
That seems to be a death rattle then.
Ask @jarland about delimiter and popcorn…
As for buyshared, we haven’t had stock for over 2 years now. Sometime this year we will spin off the company into namecrane, our absolutely not vaporware domain registrar.
Francisco
@ShockHosting any discount for reseller hosting?
Confirming my Singapore Service is down.
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Very apt.
Sad to see things end this way for NB.
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It's very sad.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
I just don't understand. Why?
owner gave up/cbf?
... just like other owners gave up in the past. Nothing new. It's not the first deadpool. it's not the last deadpool. It's nothing special (even though some fans want to make it look special). The popcorn drama is the same.
Hopefully @jarland will manage to save some services of clients. I respect him for his choice. A business should not be just about greed or money. This reminds me of Terrahost who managed to save some services from the fall of HostSolutions.
I was a fan.
Oops. Double post.
What do you have there?
My SG VPS is still up.
VPS 2G plan
Was up till yesterday ran fine was connected to Gridpane, decoupled the two, did a clean Debian 10 install and now no avail.
Could be dns issue (no network), but all said and done I have already waived it goodbye
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I think it really comes down to the use-case and expectations. I am happily hosting my business website on @MikePT since I know, at any time, I can just pull a backup and migrate to another hosts with 3 clicks of AIO WP Migration/Updraft. With VPS/Servers, it's probably a bit more difficult, I can imagine. In that case, I have still been happy with LE providers but also don't run any mission-critical on there. Usually, I use LE providers for smth like private vpn, gameservers, testing some stuff, running yabs or idling.
I currently love my nat vps resource pool at @natvps_uk which allows me to spin up a few instances and play around a bit, run Wireguard or backup some stuff
I get what you are trying to say, though. With LE hosts there's always the risk that within 3-5 years, you'll have to find out if your backups really work. For my use cases, I wouldn't go as far as saying I won't order from LE hosts anymore. I love the community and the spirit of people here and there are some great hosts over here and at the other place. It is what it is, though.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Tough luck. All best, mate!
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
You might want to renew that domain, so I can continue to visit your holding page every few months...
You're also not wrong, but this is more a "fool me once: shame on you, fool me twice: shame on me" type of situation. Hostdoc collapsing was my first deadpool and luckily my backup worked and with Jay going AWOL I knew there was going to be trouble there sooner or later, so I took my stuff elsewhere.
Now, I have three kinds of boxes. Experimental stuff, storage and 'set and forget' stuff, the latter being hosted projects (mostly longer term) that I don't want to think about every other day. I don't want to log in here and discover that I have to make a new backup, lose money and look for a new place for those.
None of my projects are commercial, I don't make money with it. And as time is also money I choose to rule out insecurity about longevity of the provider. Risks are never 0, but if you go with providers like Hetzner they're very small. Most of this stuff is currently hosted at PHP-Friends by the way.
For my experimental stuff (usually networking) I do sometimes use LE-providers. A NAT box or something I just happen to have a yearly for. For these it's not as problematic when I lose files as they're mostly just used for a month.
Went ahead and pulled the trigger on MyW's 25GB Reseller plan deal. Got the backup uploaded to there just now and updated my nameservers... so we're good, hopefully.
Cheap dedis are my drug, and I'm too far gone to turn back.
Totally get you, mate. It can become tiring, especially if your setup is not easy to migrate or just takes a whole lot of time to setup again. Even if it's "just for a hobby project". I once had to set up a gameserver again and it was a pita since I didn't have any backups.
Ofc, there's still incidents like OVH fire, but definitely more peace of mind with the "big guys".
That said, PHP-Friends are still a small to mid sized business. While they are solid, it's a compromise between supporting big players as in GoDaddy/DO, or some business like PHPFriends.
Aye, I still remember the Hostdoc disaster.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Yeah, but I'd rather support bigger players and not the faceless corporates. I see PHP-Friends as a good alternative for that. At least it's established and they have a big enough client base to not fail anytime more than 3 people cancel simultaneously. Also: it's not a one-man show.
Nothing wrong with a one man show. Many of the "big boy" providers started that way and grew. Just need to scale out as you go and you should be fine.
This could happen to half the hosts in this part of industry. I am sad to see it happen with Jay, but for all we know he is the hospital on a ventilator fighting for life. I do know this is totally out of character for him and I hope he is doing well.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
The End is Nigh
Where did ya get the troll tag btw?
smartass shitposting satirist
like the totally on-topic and active NC channel in your discord :-)
(/s) good luck with the migration or name change!
This is rather a step back, he is the next candidate for a deadpool, his Ponzi scheme with Lifetime will fall sideways sooner or later
I like Mike but agreed, all that lifetime stuff just screams ponzi to me. I'd be a lot more comfy on a monthly/yearly plan, but I guess worst case it's pretty easy to move shared hosting stuff around. It's not like a full server, just site files.
Saved by the Sisters of Mercy.
Expansion of the Involucration, Inc.
Will some one please link me to the thread where hostsolutions imploded? I was not around then and need to see the shit show for myself.
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Enjoy. Make sure you have lots of popcorn, you're going to need it.