@Franzkafka said:
Anyway,I won't pay the 25$.if you suspended my service again,I will file a dispute in PayPal.
So you were terminated due to violation of TOS, but was then reinstated and allowed to stay?
Now, threats, such as this, don’t usually end well.
This is not a threat.I just suspect Virmach's motivation for restoring suspended services.This provider has too many weird behaviors against their customers.I just do what I should do now.I remember that Virmach had an announcement after restoring the suspended services.I think they would come to the right way.But now,I followed their instructions for my problem but only get a invoice billed 25$. it's ridiculous.
@Franzkafka said:
Several months ago,My service has been suspended because Virmach said I violated their TOS. It was on March 8,2023 that they restored my service and generate an invoice,I paid it via PayPal although I am not sure whether I should keep the service. Actually the service will be terminated in April 7.Two weeks later,they send me a Email said that My payment has something wrong and I should pay them 25$ for investigation,If I refuse to pay,my service would be suspended again.
I have opened a ticket but nothing help, no any answers but let me pay 25$.
So @VirMach restore our suspended services just so he can earn a lot of money from our invoices and then suspend them again.Can you admit this behavior?
As far as I know. The system will still send invoice for suspended service, unless you cancel it.
I don't know why you would pay for a suspended VPS?
@Franzkafka said:
Several months ago,My service has been suspended because Virmach said I violated their TOS. It was on March 8,2023 that they restored my service and generate an invoice,I paid it via PayPal although I am not sure whether I should keep the service. Actually the service will be terminated in April 7.Two weeks later,they send me a Email said that My payment has something wrong and I should pay them 25$ for investigation,If I refuse to pay,my service would be suspended again.
I have opened a ticket but nothing help, no any answers but let me pay 25$.
So @VirMach restore our suspended services just so he can earn a lot of money from our invoices and then suspend them again.Can you admit this behavior?
As far as I know. The system will still send invoice for suspended service, unless you cancel it.
I don't know why you would pay for a suspended VPS?
No.Virmach restored my service first and then send me a invoice for the renewal fee.
@Franzkafka said:
Anyway,I won't pay the 25$.if you suspended my service again,I will file a dispute in PayPal.
So you were terminated due to violation of TOS, but was then reinstated and allowed to stay?
Now, threats, such as this, don’t usually end well.
This is not a threat.I just suspect Virmach's motivation for restoring suspended services.This provider has too many weird behaviors against their customers.I just do what I should do now.I remember that Virmach had an announcement after restoring the suspended services.I think they would come to the right way.But now,I followed their instructions for my problem but only get a invoice billed 25$. it's ridiculous.
Saying you will file a PayPal dispute if you get suspended again, is a threat.
I don’t think you’ll be suspended again, or at all, if you didn’t do anything wrong, or if nothing goes against their TOS.
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
@Franzkafka said:
Anyway,I won't pay the 25$.if you suspended my service again,I will file a dispute in PayPal.
So you were terminated due to violation of TOS, but was then reinstated and allowed to stay?
Now, threats, such as this, don’t usually end well.
This is not a threat.I just suspect Virmach's motivation for restoring suspended services.This provider has too many weird behaviors against their customers.I just do what I should do now.I remember that Virmach had an announcement after restoring the suspended services.I think they would come to the right way.But now,I followed their instructions for my problem but only get a invoice billed 25$. it's ridiculous.
Saying you will file a PayPal dispute if you get suspended again, is a threat.
I don’t think you’ll be suspended again, or at all, if you didn’t do anything wrong, or if nothing goes against their TOS.
So can you tell me What should I do?My service was suspended because Virmach said I violate their TOS. Suddenly they unsuspend my service and send me a invoice to let my pay it.I remember that Virmach has announcement about restoring suspended services.I did nothing after I paid the invoice.
I am sure there are a lot of customers like me.They received a alert Email which says the payment has something wrong and we have to pay 25$ for investigation.As for whether we can keep the service, it depends on the investigation result.
Don't let me open a ticket.I already done.One more Ticket?I am afraid that Virmach will delete my account immediately.
@Franzkafka said:
Anyway,I won't pay the 25$.if you suspended my service again,I will file a dispute in PayPal.
So you were terminated due to violation of TOS, but was then reinstated and allowed to stay?
Now, threats, such as this, don’t usually end well.
This is not a threat.I just suspect Virmach's motivation for restoring suspended services.This provider has too many weird behaviors against their customers.I just do what I should do now.I remember that Virmach had an announcement after restoring the suspended services.I think they would come to the right way.But now,I followed their instructions for my problem but only get a invoice billed 25$. it's ridiculous.
Saying you will file a PayPal dispute if you get suspended again, is a threat.
I don’t think you’ll be suspended again, or at all, if you didn’t do anything wrong, or if nothing goes against their TOS.
So can you tell me What should I do?My service was suspended because Virmach said I violate their TOS. Suddenly they unsuspend my service and send me a invoice to let my pay it.I remember that Virmach has announcement about restoring suspended services.I did nothing after I paid the invoice.
I am sure there are a lot of customers like me.They received a alert Email which says the payment has something wrong and we have to pay 25$ for investigation.As for whether we can keep the service, it depends on the investigation result.
Don't let me open a ticket.I already done.One more Ticket?I am afraid that Virmach will delete my account immediately.
If anything, for now, I would just wait for @VirMach side of the story.
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
Nothing special, we do this routinely but there was a large backlog so it was processed together. I can guarantee you that we didn't personally try to do anything to you, it just means you were included in a list of like 200-300 disputes that were mass marked together.
If you don't like it being brought up consider not disputing payments, and you can do whatever you want. If you don't want to contact us or pay a processing fee to get it resolved you do realize you don't need to contact us, right?
End result is just your account being finally closed which you wanted anyway, now we're just processing it in bulk.
And again none of this is a conspiracy. We did a bulk unsuspension for a different reason, now we're bulk processing disputes. We didn't go and check who opened a dispute to leave them out the first process, and just because we decided to unsuspend some services in relation to one breach of terms of service doesn't mean it forgives you automatically for everything you ever did, obviously if we find a dispute was done that's getting processed now.
Have you considered maybe not doing all these things and then being shocked if we follow normal procedure and you get caught with some consequences?
@VirMach said:
Nothing special, we do this routinely but there was a large backlog so it was processed together. I can guarantee you that we didn't personally try to do anything to you, it just means you were included in a list of like 200-300 disputes that were mass marked together.
If you don't like it being brought up consider not disputing payments, and you can do whatever you want. If you don't want to contact us or pay a processing fee to get it resolved you do realize you don't need to contact us, right?
End result is just your account being finally closed which you wanted anyway, now we're just processing it in bulk.
And again none of this is a conspiracy. We did a bulk unsuspension for a different reason, now we're bulk processing disputes. We didn't go and check who opened a dispute to leave them out the first process, and just because we decided to unsuspend some services in relation to one breach of terms of service doesn't mean it forgives you automatically for everything you ever did, obviously if we find a dispute was done that's getting processed now.
Have you considered maybe not doing all these things and then being shocked if we follow normal procedure and you get caught with some consequences?
1.I didn't make any dispute before.
2.I have tried to contact you via ticket,and provide my payment receipt for more details but no answers.
3.why should I pay 25$ for investigation. it's you said my payment has something wrong while you didn't give me any details about the problem.
What you're requesting is not in any way reasonable. If this was directly based off an export of disputes and chargebacks, that means for the 200-300 that's already potentially up to $9,000 in costs the business has incurred. Now you want us to go through them one by one and compile information for everyone first, before collecting a fee.
That's not how it works. It's funny so far the only person that paid the processing fee was someone who knew they opened a dispute and then closed it, and we promptly investigated it, refunded them, and cleared their account. Everyone else clearly doesn't want to pay because they know the results won't come back with a refund, which is fine, but we're not going to dedicated additional resources just to appease people that have taken away the only thing ever given to us for a service which is the payment.
This is all laid out in our terms of service. None of this is a surprise. We even gave people a heads up, usually a payment dispute/reversal is an immediate suspension and I believe compared to many providers this by itself is much more courteous as other providers would normally just fully terminate your account without a suspension or notice.
Based on everything you've said in the past I think most people can immediately agree that you most definitely did open a payment dispute. In the future if you want to be taken more seriously consider not starting off by constantly lying in the past. And if you are innocent, pay the fee, have it investigated, and it'll clearly be returned if there's no dispute. Otherwise if you do not trust us to do that, then consider going with a provider you trust.
@Franzkafka said: Anyway,I won't pay the 25$.if you suspended my service again,I will file a dispute in PayPal.
You have a lot of guts, or bravery, and set a good example for every customer of vir.
Don't hesitate to request for refund, and I reckon that PayPal will make a fair judgement which maximises interests of both parties.
Also, don't forget to rate vir without bias on TrustPilot and promote your (un)happy experience in your native language on local forums or groups or social networks.
@VirMach said:
What you're requesting is not in any way reasonable. If this was directly based off an export of disputes and chargebacks, that means for the 200-300 that's already potentially up to $9,000 in costs the business has incurred. Now you want us to go through them one by one and compile information for everyone first, before collecting a fee.
That's not how it works. It's funny so far the only person that paid the processing fee was someone who knew they opened a dispute and then closed it, and we promptly investigated it, refunded them, and cleared their account. Everyone else clearly doesn't want to pay because they know the results won't come back with a refund, which is fine, but we're not going to dedicated additional resources just to appease people that have taken away the only thing ever given to us for a service which is the payment.
This is all laid out in our terms of service. None of this is a surprise. We even gave people a heads up, usually a payment dispute/reversal is an immediate suspension and I believe compared to many providers this by itself is much more courteous as other providers would normally just fully terminate your account without a suspension or notice.
Based on everything you've said in the past I think most people can immediately agree that you most definitely did open a payment dispute. In the future if you want to be taken more seriously consider not starting off by constantly lying in the past. And if you are innocent, pay the fee, have it investigated, and it'll clearly be returned if there's no dispute. Otherwise if you do not trust us to do that, then consider going with a provider you trust.
Well.So you still can't give me more details about my so-called " dispute" or something payment issue but insist on letting me pay 25$ first.I won't.You can do whatever you want.
@Franzkafka said: Well.So you still can't give me more details about my so-called " dispute" or something payment issue but insist on letting me pay 25$ first.I won't.You can do whatever you want.
Sure, just for you, I won't pass on an opportunity to continue publicly exposing your lies if it makes you happy. I don't know why you always think it would be helpful to your cause, but here you go. I don't even have you flagged but I can immediately tell who you are based on how you act.
It's so fitting how it's of course on another account, this way you can pretend like you did nothing wrong when the same PayPal account was used on all these...
01/28/2023 11:08 - Reversed - $25.00
March 13, 2022 at 10:57:43 AM PDT - Disputed on August 9th - Reversed - $12.17
March 13, 2022 at 10:53:43 AM PDT - Disputed on August 9th - Reversed - $12.17
So you literally have services you didn't pay for at this point, and out of everyone you're the one complaining the most about a $25 fee to get it sorted out. You're probably #1 medalist for MJJ disputer, go tell all your friends, they may be proud of you.
Looking forward to more disputes from you since that's your go-to for everything.
Honorary mention: you even disputed $0.25 "item not as described" on January 2nd because your $0.25 Tokyo promo didn't get immediately activated after you ordered it two days earlier, while we were trying to process the refunds.
Anyway I'm sure you'll have a clever and definitely 100% truthful response to this.
@Franzkafka said: Well.So you still can't give me more details about my so-called " dispute" or something payment issue but insist on letting me pay 25$ first.I won't.You can do whatever you want.
Sure, just for you, I won't pass on an opportunity to continue publicly exposing your lies if it makes you happy. I don't know why you always think it would be helpful to your cause, but here you go. I don't even have you flagged but I can immediately tell who you are based on how you act.
It's so fitting how it's of course on another account, this way you can pretend like you did nothing wrong when the same PayPal account was used on all these...
01/28/2023 11:08 - Reversed - $25.00
March 13, 2022 at 10:57:43 AM PDT - Disputed on August 9th - Reversed - $12.17
March 13, 2022 at 10:53:43 AM PDT - Disputed on August 9th - Reversed - $12.17
So you literally have services you didn't pay for at this point, and out of everyone you're the one complaining the most about a $25 fee to get it sorted out. You're probably #1 medalist for MJJ disputer, go tell all your friends, they may be proud of you.
Looking forward to more disputes from you since that's your go-to for everything.
Honorary mention: you even disputed $0.25 "item not as described" on January 2nd because your $0.25 Tokyo promo didn't get immediately activated after you ordered it two days earlier, while we were trying to process the refunds.
Anyway I'm sure you'll have a clever and definitely 100% truthful response to this.
You haven't disputed that one payment yet, sure. Let's see how it looks in a few days. Doesn't change the fact that previous payments from you were disputed. Anyway, have a great rest of your week. I've already gone beyond the level of support deserved in this situation.
@VirMach said:
You haven't disputed that one payment yet, sure. Let's see how it looks in a few days. Doesn't change the fact that previous payments from you were disputed. Anyway, have a great rest of your week. I've already gone beyond the level of support deserved in this situation.
No evidence,no dispute details.so you can say anything you want. It's Okay.I will report more details about What you have done to your customers.
How to measure IOPS/s for disk I got shutdown that on 2 VPS, have no idea why now, and how my app that run on it is optimized
if I run iostat -xd 1 10 i get: https://ibb.co/2dSpRkQ
@reb0rn said:
How to measure IOPS/s for disk I got shutdown that on 2 VPS, have no idea why now, and how my app that run on it is optimized
if I run iostat -xd 1 10 i get: https://ibb.co/2dSpRkQ
If swap enabled maybe you can consider turning it off.
@Franzkafka Thank you.
Personally I don't know why you would want to stay with such a provider, given your stated experiences. Your post history of 83 comments is pretty much all about how much you dislike, or have issues with VirMach. You and VirMach go together like oil and water. My advise is cancel all your services with this provider, and don't pay anymore invoices. Your health is more imprortaint than a low price on a VPS.
@FrankZ said: @Franzkafka Thank you.
Personally I don't know why you would want to stay with such a provider, given your stated experiences. Your post history of 83 comments is pretty much all about how much you dislike, or have issues with VirMach. You and VirMach go together like oil and water. My advise is cancel all your services with this provider, and don't pay anymore invoices. Your health is more imprortaint than a low price on a VPS.
I agree.But I have to let more people know how awful Virmach's service is.So I came here.
I expect you are correct, VirMach does not care. VirMach has stated previously that he wants bad reviews. That seems to be his marketing angle. People find him because he is high profile due to all the bad review threads, then they buy sales offers because "For that price why not see for my self" or similar. Even the people making these complaints seem to have a hard time not renewing and wanting to buy more VirMach VPS. Happy customers do not seem to make review threads.
There is a long running public/indexed VirMach thread in the "Reviews" section that people can make their VirMach views known. By opening new threads to "let more people know how awful Virmach's service is" I expect people are unwittingly just doing his marketing for him.
@reb0rn said:
How to measure IOPS/s for disk I got shutdown that on 2 VPS, have no idea why now, and how my app that run on it is optimized
if I run iostat -xd 1 10 i get: https://ibb.co/2dSpRkQ
The screenshot provided doesn't represent good results. I believe the first line is the one that shows your averages from since it's booted up, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as we don't generally use iostat for the averages. That doesn't matter too much, since the results are per second anyway. But the answer to your question is what you're doing is the perfect way of measuring it.
It's showing 10MB/s in reads and writes which could by itself be fine but rareq-sz and wareq-sz are 84 and 43, which is average size in KB of the requests issued. So 84KB and 43KB. This makes the 10MB/s read and write much more intensive. So if we're trying to measure IOPS, this is oversimplifying it and it's not how it actually works but you can do 10MB+10MB = 20MB, divided by (84+43)/2 (the average of the two, for a quick ballpark measurement.)
So 20,000KB/63.5KB = 315.
It'd have to do about 315 requests of that size per second to be able to do 20MB per second.
Remember though, I said this is oversimplifying. It's not actually how it works but it gets you a close enough number even though the methodology is incorrect. But I actually said you should do it this way for a reason, to provide a better understanding of what it all means. If you want to measure your IOPS, the simpler way to do it is to look at the "r/s" and "w/s" columns. So that's 111 and 231, for a total of 342 which is very close to the other method we just used to measure it.
There's a final column that I don't believe I see on your readouts, perhaps because it counts the actual transfers per second issued to the physical device, and this happens outside of virtualization. Because the actual impact doesn't necessarily end up being 342, it can somewhat be combined to a degree in a more efficient manner. In any case, the IOPS is the 342 number.
Now, the most alarming thing in that image is the %util
Which is:
Percentage of elapsed time during which I/O requests were issued to the device (bandwidth utilization for the device)
This more effectively measures your impact in a simple way. If it's 29.01% then that's really high.
The rest of your readouts for the time intervals you put are all over the lace but not quite as high as the average at the top which tells me it's possible that once in a while it's going really really high, if it's averaging out to that level. This ends up being even worse since it could mean for example for 10 or 20 minutes you could be doing way more and then other times less.
More bursty = bottleneck points, impacting others.
Short answer: your screenshot shows you the operations that you can add up as well as other important information showing why it's too high. 20MB/s at average 60KB is really intensive on the disk, and this shows on the utilization column. This could of course be fine if this was on your computer at home, but you don't have a full disk to yourself and therefore the amount is too high for your chunk.
(edit) One cool part with iostat is that it's more granular so if you actually look at it longer you can come to a more precise conclusion than the above. For example, your spikes seem to be happening when it's a bunch of rareq-sz of 4KB, so random reads are most likely what's causing your issue. Whatever you're running that could be related to small random reads. The writes seem fine, in that image in the way they happen.
This last part won't be helpful in understanding why our system is detecting you as it wouldn't go that granular, but more on fixing the underlying problem.
@vyas said: Moderators may I know why we have a separate bitch and moan Virmach thread when there is already a must a threat where people can complain ??
You are right of course, this thread subject is a duplicate of the thread you mentioned. I have no excuse for not merging this thread with the other one when I first saw it. Bad Moderator, bad. I will merge them now.
@vyas said:
Moderators may I know why we have a separate bitch and moan Virmach thread when there is already a must a threat where people can complain ??
@Franzkafka is back... after his 'last', "last" and then last ticket. Again, back. Stockholm syndrome.
Funny thing - guy haven't bought any VPS from VirMach according to his PayPal from 2021 to now - one for 0.25$ in December (trying again....) that was refunded and now this 8.88$ in March 2023 (trying again again)... but we all have seen him here BEFORE December so he must have some services, right?
@Jab said: @Franzkafka is back... after his 'last', "last" and then last ticket. Again, back. Stockholm syndrome.
Funny thing - guy haven't bought any VPS from VirMach according to his PayPal from 2021 to now - one for 0.25$ in December (trying again....) that was refunded and now this 8.88$ in March 2023 (trying again again)... but we all have seen him here BEFORE December so he must have some services, right?
So yes, it wasn't him with that chargeback/dispute ]:->
HINT: Contact your scalper for 25$.
Also what do you think about just moving on and not using VirMach services - it's gonna be very good for your mental health.
So why Virmach restore my service and issue a invoice to notify me?Why didn't reject my payment when I pay it?Why should I pay 25$ for the investigation although I provide details in my ticket? I am here to report what Virmach had done to their Customers. None of your business. Don't judge me by yourself.Just a puppy of Virmach.
@Franzkafka said: I am here to report what Virmach had done to Customers. None of your business. Don't judge me by yourself.Just a puppy of Virmach.
I am here to report what Customers had done to VirMach. None of your business. Don't judge me by yourself. Just a puppy of /damn, I have nothing good here, let's leave it empty/.
Just filling blanks in your story that you totally, by coincide left empty - the fact that you had account(s)/service(s) bought via scalpers/shady people. The fact that (most likely?) they did dispute and you totally forgot to mention things like that when Frank asked you if you ever disputed a payment.
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
@VirMach said: It's showing 10MB/s in reads and writes which could by itself be fine but rareq-sz and wareq-sz are 84 and 43, which is average size in KB of the requests issued. So 84KB and 43KB. This makes the 10MB/s read and write much more intensive. So if we're trying to measure IOPS, this is oversimplifying it and it's not how it actually works but you can do 10MB+10MB = 20MB, divided by (84+43)/2 (the average of the two, for a quick ballpark measurement.)
So 20,000KB/63.5KB = 315.
It'd have to do about 315 requests of that size per second to be able to do 20MB per second.
Isn't this just w/s (231.65) and r/s? (111.49) combined?
r/s The number (after merges) of read requests
completed per second for the device.
w/s The number (after merges) of write requests
completed per second for the device.
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
@Franzkafka said: I am here to report what Virmach had done to Customers. None of your business. Don't judge me by yourself.Just a puppy of Virmach.
I am here to report what Customers had done to VirMach. None of your business. Don't judge me by yourself. Just a puppy of /damn, I have nothing good here, let's leave it empty/.
Just filling blanks in your story that you totally, by coincide left empty - the fact that you had account(s)/service(s) bought via scalpers/shady people. The fact that (most likely?) they did dispute and you totally forgot to mention things like that when Frank asked you if you ever disputed a payment.
Now that they restored my service and issue a invoice and accept my payment, it indicates that they accept me as their legal customers.And I paid Virmach by my own PayPal account,no dispute,no charge back.I provide my proof in my tickets and here. While Virmach not. It's the problem.
Sadly not really different, same one as last time. But basically the guy that vowed to never use us again, wrote negative reviews, asked for account closure, made like 80 comments here after making whatever claims to justify multi account and/or scalper or whatever he claimed, got suspended. As a part of bulk unsuspensions, got unsuspended. But when all accounts were suspended there were several disputes from the same payment source for all accounts and it wasn't processed. We caught up to the backlog of disputes, did the thing we usually do but with additional warning and giving people the choice to make a ticket if they want to be billed the standard fee and discuss it. He initially got upset he couldn't make a ticket and discuss it before paying the fee. Then claimed he didn't do it, on our end it shows that they're indeed same payment account for initial payment of service and there's definitely disputes. He claims we're lying.
Because to him, if he actually believes what he's saying, we timed it to where he specifically was somehow targeted to renew just so we could suspend him again and have to deal with him and his disputes again. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@Franzkafka said:
Now that they restored my service and issue a invoice and accept my payment, it indicates that they accept me as their legal customers.And I paid Virmach by my own PayPal account,no dispute,no charge back.I provide my proof in my tickets and here. While Virmach not. It's the problem.
I think there's a lot of us that would like to see this story end. What about it @Franzkafka ... have you finally learned the lesson "stop doing shady shit"?
@VirMach said:
What you're requesting is not in any way reasonable. If this was directly based off an export of disputes and chargebacks, that means for the 200-300 that's already potentially up to $9,000 in costs the business has incurred. Now you want us to go through them one by one and compile information for everyone first, before collecting a fee.
"Why is Karen such a bitch? Why won't she let me use whatever details I want and just accept this payment?!"
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This is not a threat.I just suspect Virmach's motivation for restoring suspended services.This provider has too many weird behaviors against their customers.I just do what I should do now.I remember that Virmach had an announcement after restoring the suspended services.I think they would come to the right way.But now,I followed their instructions for my problem but only get a invoice billed 25$. it's ridiculous.
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As far as I know. The system will still send invoice for suspended service, unless you cancel it.
I don't know why you would pay for a suspended VPS?
No.Virmach restored my service first and then send me a invoice for the renewal fee.
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Saying you will file a PayPal dispute if you get suspended again, is a threat.
I don’t think you’ll be suspended again, or at all, if you didn’t do anything wrong, or if nothing goes against their TOS.
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
So can you tell me What should I do?My service was suspended because Virmach said I violate their TOS. Suddenly they unsuspend my service and send me a invoice to let my pay it.I remember that Virmach has announcement about restoring suspended services.I did nothing after I paid the invoice.
I am sure there are a lot of customers like me.They received a alert Email which says the payment has something wrong and we have to pay 25$ for investigation.As for whether we can keep the service, it depends on the investigation result.
Don't let me open a ticket.I already done.One more Ticket?I am afraid that Virmach will delete my account immediately.
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If anything, for now, I would just wait for @VirMach side of the story.
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
Again.I am here not for threatening Virmach.I am here to want Virmach give me an explanation for customers like me.
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Money shot
Nothing special, we do this routinely but there was a large backlog so it was processed together. I can guarantee you that we didn't personally try to do anything to you, it just means you were included in a list of like 200-300 disputes that were mass marked together.
If you don't like it being brought up consider not disputing payments, and you can do whatever you want. If you don't want to contact us or pay a processing fee to get it resolved you do realize you don't need to contact us, right?
End result is just your account being finally closed which you wanted anyway, now we're just processing it in bulk.
And again none of this is a conspiracy. We did a bulk unsuspension for a different reason, now we're bulk processing disputes. We didn't go and check who opened a dispute to leave them out the first process, and just because we decided to unsuspend some services in relation to one breach of terms of service doesn't mean it forgives you automatically for everything you ever did, obviously if we find a dispute was done that's getting processed now.
Have you considered maybe not doing all these things and then being shocked if we follow normal procedure and you get caught with some consequences?
1.I didn't make any dispute before.
2.I have tried to contact you via ticket,and provide my payment receipt for more details but no answers.
3.why should I pay 25$ for investigation. it's you said my payment has something wrong while you didn't give me any details about the problem.
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What you're requesting is not in any way reasonable. If this was directly based off an export of disputes and chargebacks, that means for the 200-300 that's already potentially up to $9,000 in costs the business has incurred. Now you want us to go through them one by one and compile information for everyone first, before collecting a fee.
That's not how it works. It's funny so far the only person that paid the processing fee was someone who knew they opened a dispute and then closed it, and we promptly investigated it, refunded them, and cleared their account. Everyone else clearly doesn't want to pay because they know the results won't come back with a refund, which is fine, but we're not going to dedicated additional resources just to appease people that have taken away the only thing ever given to us for a service which is the payment.
This is all laid out in our terms of service. None of this is a surprise. We even gave people a heads up, usually a payment dispute/reversal is an immediate suspension and I believe compared to many providers this by itself is much more courteous as other providers would normally just fully terminate your account without a suspension or notice.
Based on everything you've said in the past I think most people can immediately agree that you most definitely did open a payment dispute. In the future if you want to be taken more seriously consider not starting off by constantly lying in the past. And if you are innocent, pay the fee, have it investigated, and it'll clearly be returned if there's no dispute. Otherwise if you do not trust us to do that, then consider going with a provider you trust.
You have a lot of guts, or bravery, and set a good example for every customer of vir.
Don't hesitate to request for refund, and I reckon that PayPal will make a fair judgement which maximises interests of both parties.
Also, don't forget to rate vir without bias on TrustPilot and promote your (un)happy experience in your native language on local forums or groups or social networks.
MicroLXC is lovable.
Well.So you still can't give me more details about my so-called " dispute" or something payment issue but insist on letting me pay 25$ first.I won't.You can do whatever you want.
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Sure, just for you, I won't pass on an opportunity to continue publicly exposing your lies if it makes you happy. I don't know why you always think it would be helpful to your cause, but here you go. I don't even have you flagged but I can immediately tell who you are based on how you act.
It's so fitting how it's of course on another account, this way you can pretend like you did nothing wrong when the same PayPal account was used on all these...
01/28/2023 11:08 - Reversed - $25.00
March 13, 2022 at 10:57:43 AM PDT - Disputed on August 9th - Reversed - $12.17
March 13, 2022 at 10:53:43 AM PDT - Disputed on August 9th - Reversed - $12.17
So you literally have services you didn't pay for at this point, and out of everyone you're the one complaining the most about a $25 fee to get it sorted out. You're probably #1 medalist for MJJ disputer, go tell all your friends, they may be proud of you.
Looking forward to more disputes from you since that's your go-to for everything.
Honorary mention: you even disputed $0.25 "item not as described" on January 2nd because your $0.25 Tokyo promo didn't get immediately activated after you ordered it two days earlier, while we were trying to process the refunds.
Anyway I'm sure you'll have a clever and definitely 100% truthful response to this.
can you tell me that whether I have a dispute against you for now.I provide my evidence,what about you.
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You haven't disputed that one payment yet, sure. Let's see how it looks in a few days. Doesn't change the fact that previous payments from you were disputed. Anyway, have a great rest of your week. I've already gone beyond the level of support deserved in this situation.
No evidence,no dispute details.so you can say anything you want. It's Okay.I will report more details about What you have done to your customers.
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How to measure IOPS/s for disk I got shutdown that on 2 VPS, have no idea why now, and how my app that run on it is optimized
if I run iostat -xd 1 10 i get:
https://ibb.co/2dSpRkQ
Question @Franzkafka
Have you ever disputed payments to VirMach previous to the date of this thread ?
No. Definitely .I am glad to see that Virmach can provide more info about the so-called "dispute" from my PayPal account.
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If swap enabled maybe you can consider turning it off.
VirMach: Customer’s Service cannot use more than 10% of the monthly allocated bandwidth in under twenty-four (24) hours.
https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#aup
Their reviews are god awful...
https://trustpilot.com/review/virmach.com
@Franzkafka Thank you.
Personally I don't know why you would want to stay with such a provider, given your stated experiences. Your post history of 83 comments is pretty much all about how much you dislike, or have issues with VirMach. You and VirMach go together like oil and water. My advise is cancel all your services with this provider, and don't pay anymore invoices. Your health is more imprortaint than a low price on a VPS.
From 2021.08.01~2023.03.22,all transactions listed.
As you can see,no dispute,no charge back. Nothing.
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I agree.But I have to let more people know how awful Virmach's service is.So I came here.
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Aha, they deserved.
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It was disabled, memory use was no issue
NOOOOOOOO
Ontario Dildo Inspector
they do, cuz @VirMach doesnt care and some admin will close the threat sooner or later
I expect you are correct, VirMach does not care. VirMach has stated previously that he wants bad reviews. That seems to be his marketing angle. People find him because he is high profile due to all the bad review threads, then they buy sales offers because "For that price why not see for my self" or similar. Even the people making these complaints seem to have a hard time not renewing and wanting to buy more VirMach VPS. Happy customers do not seem to make review threads.
There is a long running public/indexed VirMach thread in the "Reviews" section that people can make their VirMach views known. By opening new threads to "let more people know how awful Virmach's service is" I expect people are unwittingly just doing his marketing for him.
Just my personal 2 cents.
The screenshot provided doesn't represent good results. I believe the first line is the one that shows your averages from since it's booted up, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as we don't generally use iostat for the averages. That doesn't matter too much, since the results are per second anyway. But the answer to your question is what you're doing is the perfect way of measuring it.
It's showing 10MB/s in reads and writes which could by itself be fine but rareq-sz and wareq-sz are 84 and 43, which is average size in KB of the requests issued. So 84KB and 43KB. This makes the 10MB/s read and write much more intensive. So if we're trying to measure IOPS, this is oversimplifying it and it's not how it actually works but you can do 10MB+10MB = 20MB, divided by (84+43)/2 (the average of the two, for a quick ballpark measurement.)
So 20,000KB/63.5KB = 315.
It'd have to do about 315 requests of that size per second to be able to do 20MB per second.
Remember though, I said this is oversimplifying. It's not actually how it works but it gets you a close enough number even though the methodology is incorrect. But I actually said you should do it this way for a reason, to provide a better understanding of what it all means. If you want to measure your IOPS, the simpler way to do it is to look at the "r/s" and "w/s" columns. So that's 111 and 231, for a total of 342 which is very close to the other method we just used to measure it.
There's a final column that I don't believe I see on your readouts, perhaps because it counts the actual transfers per second issued to the physical device, and this happens outside of virtualization. Because the actual impact doesn't necessarily end up being 342, it can somewhat be combined to a degree in a more efficient manner. In any case, the IOPS is the 342 number.
Now, the most alarming thing in that image is the %util
Which is:
This more effectively measures your impact in a simple way. If it's 29.01% then that's really high.
The rest of your readouts for the time intervals you put are all over the lace but not quite as high as the average at the top which tells me it's possible that once in a while it's going really really high, if it's averaging out to that level. This ends up being even worse since it could mean for example for 10 or 20 minutes you could be doing way more and then other times less.
More bursty = bottleneck points, impacting others.
Short answer: your screenshot shows you the operations that you can add up as well as other important information showing why it's too high. 20MB/s at average 60KB is really intensive on the disk, and this shows on the utilization column. This could of course be fine if this was on your computer at home, but you don't have a full disk to yourself and therefore the amount is too high for your chunk.
(edit) One cool part with iostat is that it's more granular so if you actually look at it longer you can come to a more precise conclusion than the above. For example, your spikes seem to be happening when it's a bunch of rareq-sz of 4KB, so random reads are most likely what's causing your issue. Whatever you're running that could be related to small random reads. The writes seem fine, in that image in the way they happen.
This last part won't be helpful in understanding why our system is detecting you as it wouldn't go that granular, but more on fixing the underlying problem.
Moderators may I know why we have a separate bitch and moan Virmach thread when there is already a must a threat where people can complain ??
https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/5175/virmach-complain-moan-praise-chit-chat
Is the plan to turn this place into mini LET for more eyeballs?
Do not get me wrong. I would just like to know the thought process because as a eyeball gathering strategy this is fair and well!!
Best rgds
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You are right of course, this thread subject is a duplicate of the thread you mentioned. I have no excuse for not merging this thread with the other one when I first saw it. Bad Moderator, bad. I will merge them now.
On that thought, should we have dedicated threads like virmach's for other providers as well?
@Franzkafka is back... after his 'last', "last" and then
lastticket. Again, back. Stockholm syndrome.Funny thing - guy haven't bought any VPS from VirMach according to his PayPal from 2021 to now - one for 0.25$ in December (trying again....) that was refunded and now this 8.88$ in March 2023 (trying again again)... but we all have seen him here BEFORE December so he must have some services, right?
Let's https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/102399/#Comment_102399 oh...
Frankly I didn't pay you directly,no renewal and no adding funds.So yes, it wasn't him with that chargeback/dispute ]:->
HINT: Contact your scalper for 25$.
Also what do you think about just moving on and not using VirMach services - it's gonna be very good for your mental health.
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
So why Virmach restore my service and issue a invoice to notify me?Why didn't reject my payment when I pay it?Why should I pay 25$ for the investigation although I provide details in my ticket? I am here to report what Virmach had done to their Customers. None of your business. Don't judge me by yourself.Just a puppy of Virmach.
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I am here to report what Customers had done to VirMach. None of your business. Don't judge me by yourself. Just a puppy of /damn, I have nothing good here, let's leave it empty/.
Just filling blanks in your story that you totally, by coincide left empty - the fact that you had account(s)/service(s) bought via scalpers/shady people. The fact that (most likely?) they did dispute and you totally forgot to mention things like that when Frank asked you if you ever disputed a payment.
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
Isn't this just
w/s(231.65) andr/s? (111.49) combined?Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
Now that they restored my service and issue a invoice and accept my payment, it indicates that they accept me as their legal customers.And I paid Virmach by my own PayPal account,no dispute,no charge back.I provide my proof in my tickets and here. While Virmach not. It's the problem.
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No, it's not. You are the problem by buying from shady sources and then being pissed off when you get burned.
any summary?
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Same shit different mjj?
Sadly not really different, same one as last time. But basically the guy that vowed to never use us again, wrote negative reviews, asked for account closure, made like 80 comments here after making whatever claims to justify multi account and/or scalper or whatever he claimed, got suspended. As a part of bulk unsuspensions, got unsuspended. But when all accounts were suspended there were several disputes from the same payment source for all accounts and it wasn't processed. We caught up to the backlog of disputes, did the thing we usually do but with additional warning and giving people the choice to make a ticket if they want to be billed the standard fee and discuss it. He initially got upset he couldn't make a ticket and discuss it before paying the fee. Then claimed he didn't do it, on our end it shows that they're indeed same payment account for initial payment of service and there's definitely disputes. He claims we're lying.
Because to him, if he actually believes what he's saying, we timed it to where he specifically was somehow targeted to renew just so we could suspend him again and have to deal with him and his disputes again. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i now know vir vir still loves me
luv u 2.
OMG! You again... Scalpers everywhere...
Bro, my suggestion is to leave virtmach and move on.
https://microlxc.net/
Eager to see the end of this story.
And another question, is there any payment before 08/01/21?
Of course No.
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I think there's a lot of us that would like to see this story end. What about it @Franzkafka ... have you finally learned the lesson "stop doing shady shit"?
"Why is Karen such a bitch? Why won't she let me use whatever details I want and just accept this payment?!"
Jesus christ man.
Francisco