@somik said: He has to make money somehow. If hosting isn't working, he can at least sue people for extra cash...
I doubt he can really sue someone. To sue someone, one needs to run a business by the book and not, for example, request PayPal payments via the 'friends & family' option.
@somik said: He has to make money somehow. If hosting isn't working, he can at least sue people for extra cash...
I doubt he can really sue someone. To sue someone, one needs to run a business by the book and not, for example, request PayPal payments via the 'friends & family' option.
The law is very clear for such cases. He has to show “actual damage caused”.
There could be a city ordinance with regards to dropping anything in a mailbox (postbox) by “unauthorized” folks.
@somik said: He has to make money somehow. If hosting isn't working, he can at least sue people for extra cash...
I doubt he can really sue someone. To sue someone, one needs to run a business by the book and not, for example, request PayPal payments via the 'friends & family' option.
The law is very clear for such cases. He has to show “actual damage caused”.
There could be a city ordinance with regards to dropping anything in a mailbox (postbox) by “unauthorized” folks.
Just a little PayPal info: The monetary difference between a normal PayPal transaction and a "Friends & Family" transaction is a 2.9% surcharge (here in North America). For ad hoc PayPal sales, I will just charge price + 2.9% or simply 103% (for ease of calculation). I've been with PayPal since 1998, and they have always been reasonable in my experience. https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/merchant-intangibles-update
@cybertech said:
i doubt he will be able to sue anyone.
imagine he is waiting for the lawyer to contact him
LowEndLawyer™ mommy's will pay for it.
@hornet said:
Just a little PayPal info: The monetary difference between a normal PayPal transaction and a "Friends & Family" transaction is a 2.9% surcharge (here in North America). For ad hoc PayPal sales, I will just charge price + 2.9% or simply 103% (for ease of calculation). I've been with PayPal since 1998, and they have always been reasonable in my experience. https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/merchant-intangibles-update
common sense should forbid F&F transaction for business type. well, unless they're really your "Friends" and "Family" I guess.
having the power of 180days chargeback actually helps the buyer to keep their service works as advertised (even if the TOS said grug do no refund, grug no hear refund. paypal will still return your money if you didn't get what was clearly advertised). the downside is the seller will have extra bullshit to deal with, and they have to document everything just in case the customer abusing the chargeback system. but hey, I'm sure any provider with T3 infrastructure can handle that without a sweat.
so yeah, in low end market, doing F&F is a stupid idea.
Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit.
@hornet said:
Just a little PayPal info: The monetary difference between a normal PayPal transaction and a "Friends & Family" transaction is a 2.9% surcharge (here in North America). For ad hoc PayPal sales, I will just charge price + 2.9% or simply 103% (for ease of calculation). I've been with PayPal since 1998, and they have always been reasonable in my experience. https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/merchant-intangibles-update
Hopefully you're in a country where you’re allowed to charge a surcharge. The UK, for example, went further than banning card payment surcharges and included providers like PayPal.
@Encoders said:
common sense should forbid F&F transaction for business type. well, unless they're really your "Friends" and "Family" I guess.
Common sense would suggest not violating the terms and conditions of your payment provider in the first place.
Additionally, PayPal states business accounts can’t receive friends & family payments anymore, so I guess they’re also using a personal account for business activity.
Additionally, PayPal states business accounts can’t receive friends & family payments anymore, so I guess they’re also using a personal account for business activity.
That can't really be, because I have a business account and at the weekend I was still able to receive money as family and friends. (Not for any kind of business ofc)
Additionally, PayPal states business accounts can’t receive friends & family payments anymore, so I guess they’re also using a personal account for business activity.
That can't really be, because I have a business account and at the weekend I was still able to receive money as family and friends. (Not for any kind of business ofc)
🤷♂️ Just basing it on the PayPal website - "You can no longer accept friends and family payments on your Business account. However, if you’d like to receive friends and family payments, you can use or create a Personal account. If you don’t use other business products with your account, you can also change your Business account to a Personal account." - here.
Additionally, PayPal states business accounts can’t receive friends & family payments anymore, so I guess they’re also using a personal account for business activity.
That can't really be, because I have a business account and at the weekend I was still able to receive money as family and friends. (Not for any kind of business ofc)
🤷♂️ Just basing it on the PayPal website - "You can no longer accept friends and family payments on your Business account. However, if you’d like to receive friends and family payments, you can use or create a Personal account. If you don’t use other business products with your account, you can also change your Business account to a Personal account." - here.
As of July 28, 2022, US Business accounts can no longer receive friends and family payments from US senders.
PayPal is a global brand... with a lot of local country-level rules [totally expected as they payment processor/mony app etc].
Additionally, PayPal states business accounts can’t receive friends & family payments anymore, so I guess they’re also using a personal account for business activity.
That can't really be, because I have a business account and at the weekend I was still able to receive money as family and friends. (Not for any kind of business ofc)
🤷♂️ Just basing it on the PayPal website - "You can no longer accept friends and family payments on your Business account. However, if you’d like to receive friends and family payments, you can use or create a Personal account. If you don’t use other business products with your account, you can also change your Business account to a Personal account." - here.
welp, that settles it.
Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit.
@Encoders said: sigh i should've noticed this sooner. you live and learn i guess
Not trying to rub salt in the wound or anything, but it's also another immediate 🚩 when a provider, or business, claims and advertises being:
Italy's premier data center
cutting-edge datacenter in Pomezia, near Rome
Italy's Leading Data Center
Cutting-Edge Facilities in Pomezia
However, you find no visual evidence of such a facility anywhere on the Internet, including, and most importantly, their own website
No offense meant to the provider but we all know "basement" providers do exist in the LowEndWorld and we're somewhat happy to accept when they're transparent about it.
@Encoders said: sigh i should've noticed this sooner. you live and learn i guess
Not trying to rub salt in the wound or anything, but it's also another immediate 🚩 when a provider, or business, claims and advertises being:
Italy's premier data center
cutting-edge datacenter in Pomezia, near Rome
Italy's Leading Data Center
Cutting-Edge Facilities in Pomezia
However, you find no visual evidence of such a facility anywhere on the Internet, including, and most importantly, their own website
No offense meant to the provider but we all know "basement" providers do exist in the LowEndWorld and we're somewhat happy to accept when they're transparent about it.
That is why all my hosting is from a cave in an "undisclosed" location!!!
@Encoders said: sigh i should've noticed this sooner. you live and learn i guess
Not trying to rub salt in the wound or anything, but it's also another immediate 🚩 when a provider, or business, claims and advertises being:
Italy's premier data center
cutting-edge datacenter in Pomezia, near Rome
Italy's Leading Data Center
Cutting-Edge Facilities in Pomezia
However, you find no visual evidence of such a facility anywhere on the Internet, including, and most importantly, their own website
No offense meant to the provider but we all know "basement" providers do exist in the LowEndWorld and we're somewhat happy to accept when they're transparent about it.
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C1v will sue you for property damage. He is very focused on legal stuff.
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only if you followed Tier-3 infrastructure design rules while dropping the sticker
I dropped three of them for redundancy:
If this provider deadpools cause y'all aggro'd him out of biz I'll be upset.
I can live with 10/y for questionable performance, but 10 for a month or two of bad performance and then deadpool is very different bang per buck math
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He has to make money somehow. If hosting isn't working, he can at least sue people for extra cash...
You mean one of your fox furries sticker? Depending on his inclinations,y ou might just make good friends with him![:lol: :lol:](https://lowendspirit.com/plugins/emojiextender/emoji/twitter/lol.png)
I agree with you there. c1v is low price but lousy service unlike most where they charge regular price for lousy service...
Artificial intelligence is no match for our natural stupidity.
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I doubt he can really sue someone. To sue someone, one needs to run a business by the book and not, for example, request PayPal payments via the 'friends & family' option.
i doubt he will be able to sue anyone.
imagine he is waiting for the lawyer to contact him
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First, he'll setup another firm called C1Litigation. Then, sue everyone on LEniverse.
I wonder if at this point he got at least one... I hope they didn't throw it away
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This GB6 score is beyond words
This VPS has 8 gb memory, but SQL Server DB Engine is going to be very sluggish, due to “incredible” computing power.
The law is very clear for such cases. He has to show “actual damage caused”.
There could be a city ordinance with regards to dropping anything in a mailbox (postbox) by “unauthorized” folks.
— not a legal advice. Just sharing my opinion.
It also depends on the country's laws. Most countries do not have such restrictive laws like US and in some countries, court proceedings takes decades to process. Here is an example from the number 1 in delayed court proceedings, india:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/72-years-on-indias-oldest-pending-case-finally-settled/articleshow/97012986.cms
Moreover most countries are not willing to chase criminals across borders for minor crimes.
Again, same as @dev_vps, not a legal advice. Always contact your local law firm to get a free advice on these matters.
Artificial intelligence is no match for our natural stupidity.
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Ouch, especially if a 0.50€/m VPS outperforms this.
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Just a little PayPal info: The monetary difference between a normal PayPal transaction and a "Friends & Family" transaction is a 2.9% surcharge (here in North America). For ad hoc PayPal sales, I will just charge price + 2.9% or simply 103% (for ease of calculation). I've been with PayPal since 1998, and they have always been reasonable in my experience.
https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/merchant-intangibles-update
LowEndLawyer™ mommy's will pay for it.
common sense should forbid F&F transaction for business type. well, unless they're really your "Friends" and "Family" I guess.
having the power of 180days chargeback actually helps the buyer to keep their service works as advertised (even if the TOS said grug do no refund, grug no hear refund. paypal will still return your money if you didn't get what was clearly advertised). the downside is the seller will have extra bullshit to deal with, and they have to document everything just in case the customer abusing the chargeback system. but hey, I'm sure any provider with T3 infrastructure can handle that without a sweat.
so yeah, in low end market, doing F&F is a stupid idea.
Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit.
Hopefully you're in a country where you’re allowed to charge a surcharge. The UK, for example, went further than banning card payment surcharges and included providers like PayPal.
Common sense would suggest not violating the terms and conditions of your payment provider in the first place.
Additionally, PayPal states business accounts can’t receive friends & family payments anymore, so I guess they’re also using a personal account for business activity.
That can't really be, because I have a business account and at the weekend I was still able to receive money as family and friends. (Not for any kind of business ofc)
It's an immediate 🚩 when a provider or business requests "Friends & Family" PayPal payments for their services.
🤷♂️ Just basing it on the PayPal website - "You can no longer accept friends and family payments on your Business account. However, if you’d like to receive friends and family payments, you can use or create a Personal account. If you don’t use other business products with your account, you can also change your Business account to a Personal account." - here.
As of July 28, 2022, US Business accounts can no longer receive friends and family payments from US senders.
PayPal is a global brand... with a lot of local country-level rules [totally expected as they payment processor/mony app etc].
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
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*sigh* i should've noticed this sooner. you live and learn i guess
welp, that settles it.
Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit.
Not trying to rub salt in the wound or anything, but it's also another immediate 🚩 when a provider, or business, claims and advertises being:
However, you find no visual evidence of such a facility anywhere on the Internet, including, and most importantly, their own website![:smiley: :smiley:](https://lowendspirit.com/plugins/emojiextender/emoji/twitter/smiley.png)
No offense meant to the provider but we all know "basement" providers do exist in the LowEndWorld and we're somewhat happy to accept when they're transparent about it.
That is why all my hosting is from a cave in an "undisclosed" location!!!
Edit: I need a new X220 keyboard!!!
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All these adjectives are missing on this datacenter map webpage.
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