[2022] ★ VirMach ★ RYZEN ★ NVMe ★★ The Epic Sales Offer Thread ★★

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  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    @JoeMerit said:
    Anyone know what location the Chicago VMs get provisioned on? CHI or CHI2 ?

    Yes, I would expect both DCs.

    @alexxgg said:

    @Jab said:

    @alexxgg said:
    Hi there, anyone knows @VirMach average time to reply tickets on non-priority support? Couple of tickets there for a couple of days without response.

    Months, especially if you have couple of tickets :D

    OMG, well. I'm new at Virmach, flash-specials are amazing, couple of service ordered, the first one never went online, offline since day one (TPAZ003) followed all instructions at the troubleshooter in the user account, open a ticket about it to technical support. The second one is active and online, the activation took a couple of minutes but for some reason they've charged twice through PayPal, open a ticket about it to Billing.

    I'll just forget about it, someday they will reply B)

    Ticket IDs in case @VirMach sees this: #979181 #946346

    Hi @alexxgg welcome to the show. VirMach is a bit different than other providers for support tickets with these special offer plans because they come with "limited/no support". Most of the time when a VM goes off line it goes like this:
    1. Check the "Network Status" page at https://billing.virmach.com/serverstatus.php and see if your node shows there.
    2. Check the https://status.virm.ac/ look for your node and see if down or overloading.
    If you see that the problem is identified in #1 or #2 sit back and wait problem was/will be identified and is being worked on. Will be fixed asap. This is a undetermined amount of time depending on too many factors to explain here.
    If nothing shows in #1 or #2 above
    3. Come to LES and go to the currently open VirMach thread, there will normally only be one, and explain issue you are having. The more detail the better and see if someone here has similar issues or resolution to problem.
    4. Wait.
    5. Only fill out a ticket as a last resort. Since you agreed to the limited support at sign-up you should expect limited support.

    In regard to your double billing issue, the over payment should automatically end up as account credit in the next 48 to 72 hours. Please wait at least this long before opening a billing ticket. If you do open a billing ticket at some point please include the VirMach invoice # and both PayPal transaction ID # in the ticket. But you really should wait at least 48 hours before doing this.

    Don't post ticket numbers here unless asked by VirMach to do so. Quickest way to end up in the shit house. Check the OP from time to time I post things there that should be known by VirMach Clients.

    Talk more later. I got to do a few other things.

  • @FrankZ said: Hi @alexxgg welcome to the show.

    Best explanation ever @FrankZ, thank you. I'm now more aware about @VirMach limited support. I'll wait and hope for the best. The active (online) service is quiet fast (NYCB006R), I'm using it as DNSCrypt server + Wireguard + Fail2ban and Aria2GUI download server, this under DietPi. To those of you who doesn't know what to do with a KVM server, try DietPi and its softwares, that may lead you to a nice project.

  • FritzFritz Behlnd you

    @alexxgg said:

    @FrankZ said: Hi @alexxgg welcome to the show.

    Best explanation ever @FrankZ, thank you. I'm now more aware about @VirMach limited support. I'll wait and hope for the best. The active (online) service is quiet fast (NYCB006R), I'm using it as DNSCrypt server + Wireguard + Fail2ban and Aria2GUI download server, this under DietPi. To those of you who doesn't know what to do with a KVM server, try DietPi and its softwares, that may lead you to a nice project.

    I thought DietPi was intended only for Raspberry Pi.

  • @Fritz said: I thought DietPi was intended only for Raspberry Pi.

    Yes, I guess it is more popular between ARM boards but it actually works on any device with Debian by running the installation script. Since it offer an optimized Debian environment, it's perfect for lowend instances.

  • FritzFritz Behlnd you

    @alexxgg said:

    @Fritz said: I thought DietPi was intended only for Raspberry Pi.

    Yes, I guess it is more popular between ARM boards but it actually works on any device with Debian by running the installation script. Since it offer an optimized Debian environment, it's perfect for lowend instances.

    Nice!!
    I'll play with it.

  • Another beast is here!

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    @VirMach When you get a chance could you open a new thread and make the two first comments. I will move it from public view and set it up as the 2023 VirMach thread. You can just enter gibberish in the OP and comments. I intend to let this thread run into 2023 for a couple of pages and then move the comments into the 2023 thread before closing this one. I will also add a FAQ and some guidelines to the new thread.

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    Please note, these services will not be created immediately upon purchase, but will be done on a staggered basis and should generally be delivered within an hour.

    However, in some cases, it may take longer.

    LIMITED OFFER
    $53.56 /yr
    KVM – 1 GIGABIT
    4010MB DDR4 RAM
    4 vCORE (RYZEN 3.4GHz+)
    205GB SSD (NVMe)
    20992GB MONTHLY DATA
    LOS ANGELES, CA LOCATION
    1 DEDICATED IPv4
    

    This special offer is not eligible for a refund. There is a strict zero tolerance abuse policy.

    Order Now or Forever Regret Missing Out

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    LIMITED OFFER $45.23 /yr
    KVM – 1 GIGABIT
    3157MB DDR4 RAM
    4 vCORE (RYZEN 3.4GHz+)
    155GB SSD (NVMe)
    15872GB MONTHLY DATA
    NYC METRO, NJ LOCATION
    3 DEDICATED IPv4

    Nice deal if you need a big VM with lots of transfer.

    EDIT: Gone very quickly.

  • @FrankZ said: Nice deal if you need a big VM with lots of transfer.

    >
    Find you online at anytime, take more rest!

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @gogogo said:

    @FrankZ said: Nice deal if you need a big VM with lots of transfer.

    >
    Find you online at anytime, take more rest!

    My schedule these days goes 24 hours awake 10 to 13 hours asleep. So I just am doing something like 36 hour days right now, not sure why.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @gogogo said:

    @FrankZ said: Nice deal if you need a big VM with lots of transfer.

    >
    Find you online at anytime, take more rest!

    My schedule these days goes 24 hours awake 10 to 13 hours asleep. So I just am doing something like 36 hour days right now, not sure why.

    That can't be healthy

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    @fluttershy said:

    @FrankZ said:
    My schedule these days goes 24 hours awake 10 to 13 hours asleep. So I just am doing something like 36 hour days right now, not sure why.

    That can't be healthy

    Stress has always been my Achilles' heel without it I feel fantastic. I have been retired for quite a long time now. I just do some work occasionally for some old clients on really old systems because they can't find too many people to work on them. So schedules are not so important to me. I go to sleep when I am tired and wake up when my body feels I have slept enough. No alarm clocks 96 out of a 100 days. For an old guy I feel great and yoursunny has said I have done more push-ups this year than he has. The rest of the time I just play here and on a couple of local forums or with my VMs or with the grandkids. Life is great. :)

  • @FrankZ said:

    @fluttershy said:

    @FrankZ said:
    My schedule these days goes 24 hours awake 10 to 13 hours asleep. So I just am doing something like 36 hour days right now, not sure why.

    That can't be healthy

    Stress has always been my Achilles' heel without it I feel fantastic. I have been retired for quite a long time now. I just do some work occasionally for some old clients on really old systems because they can't find too many people to work on them. So schedules are not so important to me. I go to sleep when I am tired and wake up when my body feels I have slept enough. No alarm clocks 96 out of a 100 days. For an old guy I feel great and yoursunny has said I have done more push-ups this year than he has. The rest of the time I just play here and on a couple of local forums or with my VMs or with the grandkids. Life is great. :)

    That honestly sounds amazing, pretty sure you're living better than I am lol

  • Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

  • @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

  • edited December 2022

    @wd780h said: Will virmach shut down the server for no reason?

    Yo according to whatever razor's saying, "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".

    Yo yo check it out, cuz ya server at Virmach is very much dead~ (It's all about the rhythm)

    Ontario Dildo Inspector

  • @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices
  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    Hello new member @wd780h

    Let's take it one step at a time shall we.
    1. VirMach does not shut down VMs for no reason. He normally has a reason when he suspends a VM and an auto ticket is normally created.
    2. Being from China does not get you flagged. Breaking the TOS does. Make sure to read and follow the TOS that you agreed to and you will be fine. Break the TOS and you will probably be suspended, put on the naughty list, called a MJJ here, and not be allowed to purchase from Virmach again.

    Please do not double or triple post in a row, there is an edit button so you can add/edit, not delete, comments for one hour.

  • LIMITED OFFER
    $24.42 /yr
    KVM – 1 GIGABIT
    2577MB DDR4 RAM
    3 vCORE (RYZEN 3.4GHz+)
    25GB SSD (NVMe)
    2560GB MONTHLY DATA
    FRANKFURT, DE LOCATION
    1 DEDICATED IPv4
    
  • skorousskorous OG
    edited December 2022

    @FrankZ said:
    Hello new member @wd780h

    Let's take it one step at a time shall we.
    1. VirMach does not shut down VMs for no reason. He normally has a reason when he suspensions a VM and an auto ticket is normally created.

    "...when he suspensions a VM..." Only because you've said you want to be called on these. As an action one suspends a VM. A VM can be suspended or in a state of suspension.

    EDIT: stupid extra >

  • @VirMach said:

    @lgsin said:

    LIMITED OFFER $13.32 /yr
    KVM – 1 GIGABIT
    1450MB DDR4 RAM
    11 vCORE (RYZEN 3.4GHz+)
    20GB SSD (NVMe)
    2560GB MONTHLY DATA
    SAN JOSE, CA LOCATION
    1 DEDICATED IPv4

    11VCORES!!
    typo? @VirMach

    @MallocVoidstar said:
    I'll let you know if it was a typo once mine is delivered

    It's a typo and on that note I'm actually buying a new keyboard. It's been repeating digits and causing a lot of problems for a few weeks now, once in a while.

    I'll figure out what we'll do with these plans but obviously it's not going to be a good experience if everyone actually tries using all of the processing power at once. We'll see. I've marked them and made a list and we'll contact people and have some kind of resolution for it, either spread them out, refund and provide some time for free or something like that.

    (edit) I will say though that most the people who purchased that one are already marked as MJJ on our system, they get highlighted a different color so it's very obvious. And I assume they all want to resell or CPU mine on it so those will be handled more expeditiously.

    Anyone else still waiting for support or @VirMach on the 11 Core Typo Sale ?

  • @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @wd780h said:

    @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

    Why ?

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @skorous said:

    @FrankZ said:
    Hello new member @wd780h

    Let's take it one step at a time shall we.
    1. VirMach does not shut down VMs for no reason. He normally has a reason when he suspensions a VM and an auto ticket is normally created.

    "...when he suspensions a VM..." Only because you've said you want to be called on these. As an action one suspends a VM. A VM can be suspended or in a state of suspension.

    EDIT: stupid extra >

    Thank you. Yes please do call me on my English mistakes.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @wd780h said:

    @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

    Why ?

    Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason, I don't know what reason, I just don't want to be flagged by virmach, I'm just a student, not a lot og money

  • sh97sh97 Top MJJ
    edited December 2022

    REQUEST

    3+ core
    4+ gb ram
    50+ gb disk
    1-2 tb data

    Arizona/Denver or any location with Netflix

    15-20usd (I think this is reasonable, I did miss a couple of offers which came before which were similar spec)

    Can we update virbot formula @VirMach :)

    Thanks!

  • @FrankZ said:

    @skorous said:

    @FrankZ said:
    Hello new member @wd780h

    Let's take it one step at a time shall we.
    1. VirMach does not shut down VMs for no reason. He normally has a reason when he suspensions a VM and an auto ticket is normally created.

    "...when he suspensions a VM..." Only because you've said you want to be called on these. As an action one suspends a VM. A VM can be suspended or in a state of suspension.

    EDIT: stupid extra >

    Thank you. Yes please do call me on my English mistakes.

    Had to word it that way because it feels weird correcting you. Your English is better than prob'ly a third to one half my American coworkers and I don't say anything to them. :)

  • @wd780h said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @wd780h said:

    @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

    Why ?

    Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason, I don't know what reason, I just don't want to be flagged by virmach, I'm just a student, not a lot og money

    If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    VirMach: Customer’s Service cannot use more than 10% of the monthly allocated bandwidth in under twenty-four (24) hours.
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#aup

  • I'm not using a public VPN, my IP address should be my only account, and I'm at home.> @abiaolaoge said:

    @wd780h said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @wd780h said:

    @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

    Why ?

    Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason, I don't know what reason, I just don't want to be flagged by virmach, I'm just a student, not a lot og money

    If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    I don't think so. I log in to virmach with a connected VPN, which is not a pubilc VPN. It's only used by one or several people, but Im a little afraid that my account will be blockef late.

  • AuroraZeroAuroraZero Retired
    edited December 2022

    @sh97 said:
    REQUEST

    3+ core
    4+ gb ram
    50+ gb disk
    1-2 tb data

    Arizona/Denver or any location with Netflix

    15-20usd (I think this is reasonable, I did miss a couple of offers which came before which were similar spec)

    Can we update virbot formula @VirMach :)

    Thanks!

    You are just playing roulete on this Netflix stuff. Even if it works at the beginning they will ban it it as soon as they find it. Might as well find a VPN that specializes in unblocking Netflix. Will save you headache and probably money.

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • @wd780h said: Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason,

    I do not believe this is a factual statement. There are reasons, but people either choose not to disclose them or have not read/understood the communication.

  • @Mumbly said:

    Yea, this one is really nice.
    Is it created already or still pending?

    that one is created

  • @tetech said:

    @wd780h said: Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason,

    I do not believe this is a factual statement. There are reasons, but people either choose not to disclose them or have not read/understood the communication.

    Haha, I think so, too, but it's still worrying. The main reason is that the server is banned, and I will feel very uncomfortable. I am a student, and I don't have much money, but I need a server. My age is only 14 years old.

  • @AuroraZero said:

    @sh97 said:
    REQUEST

    3+ core
    4+ gb ram
    50+ gb disk
    1-2 tb data

    Arizona/Denver or any location with Netflix

    15-20usd (I think this is reasonable, I did miss a couple of offers which came before which were similar spec)

    Can we update virbot formula @VirMach :)

    Thanks!

    You are just playing roulete on this Netflix stuff. Even if it works at the beginning they will ban it it as soon as they find it. Might as well find a VPN that specializes in unblocking Netflix. Will save you headache and probably money.

    It's not a requirement per se, but a good to have.
    For Netflix alone i wouldn't have a well spec system like the one i requested.

  • FritzFritz Behlnd you
    edited December 2022

    @wd780h said:

    @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

    That can happen to any provider.
    Accidentally delete your VM, Provider disapear, suspension and termination because of abuse, etc.

    The most important thing is, always do Backup regularly.

  • @wd780h said:
    I'm not using a public VPN, my IP address should be my only account, and I'm at home.> @abiaolaoge said:

    @wd780h said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @wd780h said:

    @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

    Why ?

    Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason, I don't know what reason, I just don't want to be flagged by virmach, I'm just a student, not a lot og money

    If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    I don't think so. I log in to virmach with a connected VPN, which is not a pubilc VPN. It's only used by one or several people, but Im a little afraid that my account will be blockef late.

    Not related to VPN, China Unicom/China Mobile/China Telecom always provide NAT network for home broadband, the same residential area/same company may use the same IPv4 address, you can only get a private network address, such as 192.168. 0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12, 10.0.0.0/8. . .

    VirMach: Customer’s Service cannot use more than 10% of the monthly allocated bandwidth in under twenty-four (24) hours.
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#aup

  • FritzFritz Behlnd you

    @sh97 said:
    REQUEST

    3+ core
    4+ gb ram
    50+ gb disk
    1-2 tb data

    Arizona/Denver or any location with Netflix

    15-20usd (I think this is reasonable, I did miss a couple of offers which came before which were similar spec)

    Can we update virbot formula @VirMach :)

    Thanks!

    Why don't you buy a VPN account that support streaming? It will work out of the box without any hassle.
    Windscribe or VPN Unlimited is highly recommended.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    @wd780h said:

    @FrankZ said:
    Why ?

    Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason, I don't know what reason, I just don't want to be flagged by virmach, I'm just a student, not a lot og money

    This is incorrect information. People who are suspended are given a chance to correct the problem if it is correctable. Some violations of the TOS are not correctable such as multi accounts, or repeated abuse of the service and obviously many other things. On a shared service VirMach has a responsibility to provide a reasonable service to all customers that stay within the TOS, not to the ones who break them.

    If you want to say that some people do not read or understand the TOS and then break those conditions without understanding what they have done. I 'll give you that, and I expect that is more than likely the reason you are hearing the things that you are about people being deleted for no reason. So like I said before if you want to have no problems read, understand, and follow the TOS.

  • @abiaolaoge said:

    @wd780h said:
    I'm not using a public VPN, my IP address should be my only account, and I'm at home.> @abiaolaoge said:

    @wd780h said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @wd780h said:

    @tototo said:

    @wd780h said:
    Will virmach shut down the server for no reason? Disclaimer I'm not MJJ

    @wd780h said:
    @VirMach I'm a user from China, I want to use my server all the time, I won't abuse, please don't flag MJJ

    Do you have any idea?

    • Buying account
    • Fake personal information
    • Use of multiple accounts
    • Unpaid invoices

    None, I only have one account, registered in 2019, I have not done any violations, I am just afraid of deleting my server

    Why ?

    Because there are a lot of people whose servers were deleted foe no reason, I don't know what reason, I just don't want to be flagged by virmach, I'm just a student, not a lot og money

    If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    I don't think so. I log in to virmach with a connected VPN, which is not a pubilc VPN. It's only used by one or several people, but Im a little afraid that my account will be blockef late.

    Not related to VPN, China Unicom/China Mobile/China Telecom always provide NAT network for home broadband, the same residential area/same company may use the same IPv4 address, you can only get a private network address, such as 192.168. 0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12, 10.0.0.0/8. . .

    No, I have a publlic IP at home, but I can't log on to Virmache's website normally. Because China can't use Google's, I may use VPN. Will Virmache ban my account becaude of VPN?

  • @wd780h said: Because China can't use Google's,

    Virmach's login page doesn't require Google's recaptcha anymore. Ocassionally Cloudflare would ask you to verify as human but it's rare on my side.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    @abiaolaoge said: If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    VirMach has stated before that this alone will not flag you as a multi account holder. There is much more that goes into it and even when flagged these people are given a chance to come clean, tell the truth, combine their accounts, and move on. I can't tell you how many times people have come here swearing that they only have one account and VirMach is wrong and then when presented with the evidence of their abuse fess up and admit that they have two, five, or even 15 accounts that they had sold off to people who were non English speaking Chinese for a profit. Or who had multiple accounts that they had purchased from scalpers because they were such a good deal. So the muli account thing is real and having these account removed is the right thing to do because other wise why should the rest of us follow the TOS if some people can get away with not doing so.

  • @wd780h said: No, I have a publlic IP at home, but I can't log on to Virmache's website normally. Because China can't use Google's, I may use VPN. Will Virmache ban my account becaude of VPN?

    If you have requested a public IPv4 address from your ISP, then as long as you follow the rules in the AUP, there will be no problem.
    Do not use a VPN when placing an order unless you are using Alipay.

    VirMach: Customer’s Service cannot use more than 10% of the monthly allocated bandwidth in under twenty-four (24) hours.
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#aup

  • @FrankZ said:

    @abiaolaoge said: If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    VirMach has stated before that this alone will not flag you as a multi account holder. There is much more that goes into it and even when flagged these people are given a chance to come clean, tell the truth, combine their accounts, and move on. I can't tell you how many times people have come here swearing that they only have one account and VirMach is wrong and then when presented with the evidence of their abuse fess up and admit that they have two, five, or even 15 accounts that they had sold off to people who were non English speaking Chinese for a profit. Or who had multiple accounts that they had purchased from scalpers because they were such a good deal. So the muli account thing is real and having these account removed is the right thing to do because other wise why should the rest of us follow the TOS if some people can get away with not doing so.

    If I don't violate tos, can I use it all the time, but I want to switch the Japanese computer room. I don't know if it will be banned after replacement.

  • @wd780h said:
    No, I have a publlic IP at home, but I can't log on to Virmache's website normally. Because China can't use Google's, I may use VPN. Will Virmache ban my account becaude of VPN?

    You may be in violation of the ToS, but never know if VirMach will ban you. All you can do is find a provider that you can access without VPN, or find a provider that allow to use with VPN, or pray to God that VirMach doesn't ban you.
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#terms

    Do not use proxies when ordering, and do not try to mask your identity in any way.

    That said, if you are using the service quietly, VirMach will most likely not bother you.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @abiaolaoge said: If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    VirMach has stated before that this alone will not flag you as a multi account holder. There is much more that goes into it and even when flagged these people are given a chance to come clean, tell the truth, combine their accounts, and move on. I can't tell you how many times people have come here swearing that they only have one account and VirMach is wrong and then when presented with the evidence of their abuse fess up and admit that they have two, five, or even 15 accounts that they had sold off to people who were non English speaking Chinese for a profit. Or who had multiple accounts that they had purchased from scalpers because they were such a good deal. So the muli account thing is real and having these account removed is the right thing to do because other wise why should the rest of us follow the TOS if some people can get away with not doing so.

    I also agree that multiple accounts should be removed, I'm just concerned about the correctness of the multiple account detection algorithm.

    VirMach: Customer’s Service cannot use more than 10% of the monthly allocated bandwidth in under twenty-four (24) hours.
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#aup

  • @abiaolaoge said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @abiaolaoge said: If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    VirMach has stated before that this alone will not flag you as a multi account holder. There is much more that goes into it and even when flagged these people are given a chance to come clean, tell the truth, combine their accounts, and move on. I can't tell you how many times people have come here swearing that they only have one account and VirMach is wrong and then when presented with the evidence of their abuse fess up and admit that they have two, five, or even 15 accounts that they had sold off to people who were non English speaking Chinese for a profit. Or who had multiple accounts that they had purchased from scalpers because they were such a good deal. So the muli account thing is real and having these account removed is the right thing to do because other wise why should the rest of us follow the TOS if some people can get away with not doing so.

    I also agree that multiple accounts should be removed, I'm just concerned about the correctness of the multiple account detection algorithm.

    There is no such possibility. virmach used cloudflare, which can't display the source IP, but I seem to have used WARP VPN once. I don't know if I will be marked with multiple accounts.

  • @wd780h said:

    @abiaolaoge said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @abiaolaoge said: If you are in a NAT network (school/company/home...) then it is not recommended to buy virmach's vps, because multi-account detection is obviously based on IP address.
    As far as I know, almost all home networks in mainland China are NAT networks, and thousands of people share the same IPv4 address.

    VirMach has stated before that this alone will not flag you as a multi account holder. There is much more that goes into it and even when flagged these people are given a chance to come clean, tell the truth, combine their accounts, and move on. I can't tell you how many times people have come here swearing that they only have one account and VirMach is wrong and then when presented with the evidence of their abuse fess up and admit that they have two, five, or even 15 accounts that they had sold off to people who were non English speaking Chinese for a profit. Or who had multiple accounts that they had purchased from scalpers because they were such a good deal. So the muli account thing is real and having these account removed is the right thing to do because other wise why should the rest of us follow the TOS if some people can get away with not doing so.

    I also agree that multiple accounts should be removed, I'm just concerned about the correctness of the multiple account detection algorithm.

    There is no such possibility. virmach used cloudflare, which can't display the source IP, but I seem to have used WARP VPN once. I don't know if I will be marked with multiple accounts.

    My English is not very good. What I just wanted to say is whether it is possible.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @wd780h said: If I don't violate tos, can I use it all the time, but I want to switch the Japanese computer room. I don't know if it will be banned after replacement.

    There is nothing I have seen that would make me believe that you would be suspended for using your VPS 24/7 if you stay within the TOS. I have used mine this way for more than seven years and never had an issue. I was suspended once during that time for going over on my bandwidth. On the first on the next month it was working again without issue.

    Last I heard transfers to Tokyo are currently not allowed because there is no space left. VirMach said he was sending more servers to Tokyo but I do not know how long this will take to be available as there are many unpredictable factors involved.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited December 2022

    @wd780h said: There is no such possibility. virmach used cloudflare, which can't display the source IP, but I seem to have used WARP VPN once. I don't know if I will be marked with multiple accounts.

    You are starting to make me wonder why you are so concerned about this issue of multi accounts after I have explained so much to you.

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